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wonder what you will say if you find out you were totally wrong

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There’s a whole thread of material to draw upon right here.

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I'll take those odds.

You can't get me on the anti-vax, even though I can see you're just yearning to. So desperate for any slur you can throw my way to try and give your untenanted statements and arguments weight.

I'm fully vaccinated, and when offered the booster I'll take it and I'm having my flu jab this week.

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you're right, it's inevitable.

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Ah, the nuance that you've missed (not like you!) is that you can simultaneously be vaccinated personally - why not it's perfectly rational to seek to minimise your own risk - and push anti-vax messaging upon others around risks to children or other groups you don't deem worthy of state intervention.

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In regards to the question of vaccinating children, which is the nub of your post. It is not anti-vax to be hesitant and even critical of the need to vaccinate a cohort where the evidence is extremely thin as to the benefit it provides. As I understand it , the difference in impact to the health of the child due to potential side-effects of the Vaccine v's the impacts of the health of the child contracting Covid are negligible.

There is no tangible benefit. So for my two young children I'm not going to stick anything in their arm that isn't going to be of any benefit to them.

That's not anti-vax.

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The scientific evidence is clear on the benefit of vaccinating children around the world. Regulators - again around the world - have deemed the vaccines both safe and effective.

To deny that is literally to follow anti-vax narratives. As I had clearly stated in my post above. Your position is not hesitant - you clearly claim without evidence that there is no tangible benefit.

Interesting that you took a booster though - was it not you a mere few months back talking about the benefits of sending vaccines to Africa instead? For someone who vociferously argued that allowing the virus to spread was a coherent strategy due to the risks being extremely low (even without vaccination) you are certainly keen to hedge the odds in your favour at every opportunity.

Apologies if it was someone else, but nobody else springs to mind.

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Are your children covid vaccinated ?

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Unless you want to take them on holiday…

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No. I read once on the internet they’d grow an extra head and a bloke in the Spectator said we’d already hit herd immunity (three times). So I decided they were a better judge of science than the scientists.

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:D

As I said before he’s a principled one.

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I'll have a bottle of that, cheers :drunk:

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Are you sure about that?

interesting you don't read posts properly. I said when offered, I'll take it. I haven't been offered one.

I did, I can't recall exactly (i'm sure king of the search function - Hugh will find the relevant post ) in what context I said it. I think was along the lines of instead of vaccinating under 30's, vaccinate the at risk groups globally. I still stand by that.

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We'll probably go to Spain

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-requirements

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I recently read a book written about you.

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Oh look!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57888429

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The vaccines are safe as far as vaccines go, yes, but all vaccines produce side effects in some people.

The hesitancy around vaccinating children is that the risk of becoming ill with Covid is extremely small, and therefore one has to weigh the balance of whether to take the small risk of not vaccinating against a virus that is unlikely to affect them or vaccinate and take the small risk that they may get side effects.

The net benefit of vaccinating children is extremely small, so much so that the scientists were hesitant about recommending that children should be vaccinated. Although on balance they decided it would be, it was close, and in all probability based on keeping transmission rates down.