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1andrew1 03-07-2023 12:23

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I think Ress-Mogg has a case to answer. Claiming money from the State for being an MP whilst being paid as a newsreader by GB News. He needs to work out where he sits.

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Ofcom has launched a new broadcast standards investigation into an episode of Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg’s GB News show which addressed a court case involving Donald Trump.

The media watchdog has said it received 40 complaints objecting to the MP for North East Somerset acting as a newsreader during his State Of The Nation show on May 9 as politicians are prevented from this role unless it is “editorially justified”.

The investigation will look at whether the GB News programme abided by these guidelines when it reported on a civil trial verdict reached that day on the former US president.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...16ecb954&ei=15

Pierre 03-07-2023 14:22

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155156)
I think Ress-Mogg has a case to answer. Claiming money from the State for being an MP whilst being paid as a newsreader by GB News. He needs to work out where he sits.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...16ecb954&ei=15

as long as he declared his second job then there is no case to answer. lots of MPs have second jobs.

Personally I'd ban MPs from having second jobs

1andrew1 03-07-2023 14:30

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36155167)
as long as he declared his second job then there is no case to answer. lots of MPs have second jobs.

Personally I'd ban MPs from having second jobs

It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.

Pierre 03-07-2023 14:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155168)
It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.

I'm afraid you lost the room with "North Korea"

Sephiroth 03-07-2023 15:32

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155168)
It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.


"Undemocratic" is not having a fair voting system; suppressing opinions that don't support the ruling party.

"Conflict of interest" is not a valid charge against Rees-Mogg. Where is the conflict? Is he saying one thing on GB News, another in Parliament and yet another to his constituents?

You've got this wrong, Andrew. You might not like politicians having their own programme sloe (including David Lammy on LBC), but you're finding it difficult to place a valid wrongdoing here.


1andrew1 03-07-2023 16:21

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36155172)

"Undemocratic" is not having a fair voting system; suppressing opinions that don't support the ruling party.

"Conflict of interest" is not a valid charge against Rees-Mogg. Where is the conflict? Is he saying one thing on GB News, another in Parliament and yet another to his constituents?

You've got this wrong, Andrew. You might not like politicians having their own programme sloe (including David Lammy on LBC), but you're finding it difficult to place a valid wrongdoing here.


Undemocratic is several things. A functioning democracy needs an independent media, not one populated by MPs of the ruling party who can be tempted to bury issues where their party is under-performing, not hold Ministers to account and give a fangirl interview to a disgraced former Prime Minister.

Saying different things to different people is not the definition of a conflict of interest.

Itshim 03-07-2023 17:36

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155173)
Undemocratic is several things. A functioning democracy needs an independent media, not one populated by MPs of the ruling party who can be tempted to bury issues where their party is under-performing, not hold Ministers to account and give a fangirl interview to a disgraced former Prime Minister.

Saying different things to different people is not the definition of a conflict of interest.

Yet again not crediting people with enough intelligence to work out he is a MP.:shocked:

1andrew1 03-07-2023 17:46

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36155182)
Yet again not crediting people with enough intelligence to work out he is a MP.:shocked:

Eh. Where did you pluck that one from? :confused:

If the issue was that people didn't recognise the host was an MP then you could make that clear on the screen. A key issue is how effectively they can hold the ruling party to account if they're an MP in the same party.

Sephiroth 03-07-2023 18:47

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155183)
Eh. Where did you pluck that one from? :confused:

If the issue was that people didn't recognise the host was an MP then you could make that clear on the screen. A key issue is how effectively they can hold the ruling party to account if they're an MP in the same party.

In Rees-Mogg's case, he is effective on air of holding the ruling party to account.

1andrew1 03-07-2023 22:00

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36155189)
In Rees-Mogg's case, he is effective on air of holding the ruling party to account.

I'm pretty sure that's the line Alex Salmond's supporters hold of his time on Talk TV.

Damien 03-07-2023 23:01

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It might be on ofcom issue on impartiality, but probably only applies during election time?

1andrew1 03-07-2023 23:12

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36155207)
It might be on ofcom issue on impartiality, but probably only applies during election time?

Apparently as long as you don't read the news out, can demonstrate impartiality and have a safe seat with undemanding constiuents, it's all good.

I suspect Mad Nad's gushing fangirling of Johnson will eventualy lead to a well-deserved review.

Mick 04-07-2023 06:55

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155208)
Apparently as long as you don't read the news out, can demonstrate impartiality and have a safe seat with undemanding constiuents, it's all good.

I suspect Mad Nad's gushing fangirling of Johnson will eventualy lead to a well-deserved review.

40 stupid people reported JRM to Ofcom, when he read out BREAKING news on an issue that had no standing on impartiality on any political aspect in the UK.

Here’s the JRM show in question from 9th May. 23:33 minutes in when he reveals former U.S President Donald Trump, not guilty in his rape trial.


jfman 04-07-2023 07:04

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
To save us actually listening to him any longer than necessary is there a particular time stamp?

Mick 04-07-2023 07:10

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155214)
To save us actually listening to him any longer than necessary is there a particular time stamp?

Re-read my post.


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