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daveeb 19-07-2019 23:12

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003415)
Don't you start getting a humour deficiency, you are the only one keeping us sane with your perverse view of life! It's the way you tell 'em!

Obviously, I am not advocating any loss of life, that is the last thing most of us want. Unfortunately, I don't think the Iran thing is going to end well. You heard it here first.


Who for ?

Sephiroth 19-07-2019 23:12

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36003409)
So what you're saying is we need a war/lives lost to save Blobby ? (Aka Falklands/Mrs T) to divert from the fact he won't be able to deliver Brexit ? All sounds suitably bonkers from the mad side of the country.

Not at all and why you would jump to that conclusion reflects badly on you. I'm speculating on what Boris could do to attain popularity.

daveeb 19-07-2019 23:13

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003421)
Not at all and why you would jump to that conclusion reflects badly on you. I'm speculating on what Boris could do to attain popularity.


Whatever it takes I would imagine.

OLD BOY 19-07-2019 23:21

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003421)
Not at all and why you would jump to that conclusion reflects badly on you. I'm speculating on what Boris could do to attain popularity.

Clearly, you have a poor opinion of Boris. You are now calling him a warmonger. Does he deserve that? Really?

Sephiroth 19-07-2019 23:23

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003425)
Clearly, you have a poor opinion of Boris. You are now calling him a warmonger. Does he deserve that? Really?

Yes - he and Hunt were "none of the above" for me. I don't like people I can't trust.

Did you have a vote?

1andrew1 19-07-2019 23:28

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003427)
Yes - he and Hunt were "none of the above" for me. I don't like people I can't trust.

Did you have a vote?

Did you spoil your ballot paper Seph or not vote?

Sephiroth 19-07-2019 23:31

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36003432)
Did you spoil your ballot paper Seph or not vote?

"Spoil" would cover it.

OLD BOY 19-07-2019 23:46

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003434)
"Spoil" would cover it.

Wow! You really are a dissillusioned guy!

Sephiroth 19-07-2019 23:52

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003440)
Wow! You really are a dissillusioned guy!

Did you have a vote, OB?

OLD BOY 20-07-2019 00:48

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003441)
Did you have a vote, OB?

Nope. I am politically agnostic, having voted for both Conservative and Labour in my time. I should clarify that I normally trend to Conservative, but when Labour have credible leaders with economic polcies that make sense, I am pepared to give it a go.

Sephiroth 20-07-2019 09:37

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003448)
Nope. I am politically agnostic, having voted for both Conservative and Labour in my time. I should clarify that I normally trend to Conservative, but when Labour have credible leaders with economic polcies that make sense, I am pepared to give it a go.

Interesting, OB. Whereas I'm a committed Conservative by reason of my party membership (prolly one of the last of the true Conservatives along with JR), I'd have rated you as similarly minded.


Hugh 20-07-2019 10:05

Re: What deals did you get on Amazon Prime Day?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003449)
Amazon Prime and yet you are complaining about less than a fiver a month?

This forum gets more perverse every day! What exactly do you think you are paying for your TV licence every year?

---------- Post added at 23:59 ---------- Previous post was at 23:53 ----------



It is not fair or appropriate to compare Johnson to previous leaders. You and I know that he is a one-off, and therefore you must judge him on what he accomplishes as PM.

Well, we can judge him on what he achieved as Foreign Secretary...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44767848
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When Mr Johnson was appointed two years ago, there was hope that his charm and intelligence could turn into statesmanship. Diplomats warmed to this multilingual maverick - here at last was a foreign secretary with some political star quality, who could get Britain heard on the international stage.

And certainly at early international meetings, I watched as Mr Johnson was mobbed by fellow ministers seeking selfies with a tousle-haired phenomenon tipped as a future prime minister.

But soon hope turned to disappointment. The repeated gaffes and inappropriate remarks often undermined any progress Mr Johnson made with Britain's allies and opponents. There were the jokes about dead bodies in Libya and the recitation of inappropriate verses by Rudyard Kipling in Myanmar.

And there was his inaccurate suggestion that the detained British Iranian national Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe had been in Iran training journalists, which her family and supporters said had damaged their campaign to secure her release...

...But there was often frustration at the lack of substance. Foreign envoys would sometimes tell me they couldn't fill their telegrams home simply with jokes written by Boris Johnson.

On one occasion, President Sisi of Egypt simply walked out of a meeting with a rather bemused foreign secretary simply because the conversation did not get beyond the pleasantries.
"Personality" and "quirkiness" only goes so far - we need substance as well, and BH has repeatedly been proven to lack that.

OLD BOY 20-07-2019 10:40

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003453)
Interesting, OB. Whereas I'm a committed Conservative by reason of my party membership (prolly one of the last of the true Conservatives along with JR), I'd have rated you as similarly minded.


As I said, I am Conservative inclined but that doesn't mean I'd vote for them if they had a poor leader and Labour had a good one. I would never vote blindly for one party, no matter what.

OLD BOY 20-07-2019 10:45

Re: What deals did you get on Amazon Prime Day?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36003454)
Well, we can judge him on what he achieved as Foreign Secretary...

I quite liked his bendy buses and Boris bikes....:scratch:

Sephiroth 20-07-2019 11:18

Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003457)
As I said, I am Conservative inclined but that doesn't mean I'd vote for them if they had a poor leader and Labour had a good one. I would never vote blindly for one party, no matter what.

I would always vote for JR. I hope he's in Boris' cabinet to maintain some degree of sanity.


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