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OLD BOY 02-04-2018 19:58

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942354)
When Kim was in China last week, he was suppose to have been read the riot act by the China President, "Make this work, or else."

It is in China's best interest to not have a failed State, right on it's Southern Border, a State that could be occupied by either South Korea or the U.S, if ever NK decided to not play ball and start a deadly war that it would lose and be utterly annihilated.

BREAKING: Associated Press is running with a report that the Kremlin has stated that Trump invited Putin to the White House, no date has been set.

Should turn some heads in DC as well as heads here in UK, as it should. it is misguided IMO. I understand the need for diplomacy. But you don't throw each others diplomats out of the Country, shut down Consulates and then next day, send an invite for chit chat at tea time. (See, I do criticise Trump when he does things I totally do not agree with).

https://apnews.com/b0229c16ae2148b1be5c8e71bb9f2427

Maybe The Donald plans to put some nerve agent on the White House door knocker.

RizzyKing 03-04-2018 03:09

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Right now Trump is behaving very erratically and there is clearly a huge disconnect between him and everyone else at the top level and Trump acting as though he's still on reality tv firing anyone who doesn't agree with him is only going to make matters much worse. An invite to putin right now sends the opposite signal that should be sent right now and this will hit him domestically as well as even the most diehard Trump supporters are scratching their heads right now. Even in the military support for him is declining and senior military are getting frustrated by the lack of decisive directions in relation to foreign policy.

As for North Korea having their main supplier of high quality fuel turn off the tap has played a bigger part in their change of attitude then anything else.

1andrew1 03-04-2018 13:27

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Encouraging to see people are alert to Trump's foreign policy weaknesses.

Hopefully, he is receiving similar feedback from his remaining advisers and will start to make foreign policy more strategically and less driven by early-morning tweets.

Mick 03-04-2018 13:38

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I do not agree he has been weak, the stance on North Korea proved the opposite, if the meeting they have planned works out. Other issues have been misguided. His approach to Russia is troubling. Chucking out 60 Russian diplomats and closing a Russian consulate, is not weak either, his new Security Advisor is not Russia friendly, neither is Mike Pompeo, the new Secretary of State.

RizzyKing 03-04-2018 14:48

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I'm not so sure Trump had much to do with the expulsions to be honest i think that was more likely the state department and Trump gave the invite to Putin as a slap in the face for the state department for the expulsions. I really hoped Trump would rise to the job of president but he hasn't he's still acting as though he's just a businessman with the inability he had to take onboard anyone's opinion or view if it differs from his. There's been a definate attitude change amongst my american friends who voted for Trump and a shortening of patience for his silliness it's all starting to wear a bit thin.

pip08456 03-04-2018 15:03

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942438)
I do not agree he has been weak, the stance on North Korea proved the opposite, if the meeting they have planned works out. Other issues have been misguided. His approach to Russia is troubling. Chucking out 60 Russian diplomats and closing a Russian consulate, is not weak either, his new Security Advisor is not Russia friendly, neither is Mike Pompeo, the new Secretary of State.

The most worrying thing about this is that they will allow 60 replacement diplomats to enter making the hoo-ha about expulsion meaningless.

https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/us-ad...ian-diplomats/

1andrew1 03-04-2018 21:01

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35942450)
The most worrying thing about this is that they will allow 60 replacement diplomats to enter making the hoo-ha about expulsion meaningless.

https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/us-ad...ian-diplomats/

Is it just the US that operates that policy or has the rest of the world taken that approach as well?

Meanwhile, Trump is sending the military to guard the Mexican border.
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“We have very bad laws for our border, and we are going to be doing some things — I’ve been speaking with General Mattis — we’re going to be doing things militarily,” Mr. Trump said at the White House, seated beside the defense secretary at a meeting with visiting leaders of Baltic nations. “Until we can have a wall and proper security, we’re going to be guarding our border with the military. That’s a big step. We really haven’t done that before, or certainly not very much before.”

It was not immediately clear what Mr. Trump meant by the remarks, or what the rationale would be for deploying United States troops to patrol or even seal the border at a time when the numbers of people being apprehended crossing illegally are down to their lowest level since 1971.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/u...T.nav=top-news

Hugh 03-04-2018 21:42

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
If he is sending Military, it will have to be the National Guard or the Coast Guard, as the regular Military isn’t allowed to enforce domestic policies or undertake domestic law enforcement within the USA because of the Posse Comitatus Act.

1andrew1 03-04-2018 21:54

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35942513)
If he is sending Military, it will have to be the National Guard or the Coast Guard, as the regular Military isn’t allowed to enforce domestic policies or undertake domestic law enforcement within the USA because of the Posse Comitatus Act.

For fear of sounding disrespectful, is the National Guard the equivalent of Dad's Army?

Arthurgray50@blu 03-04-2018 22:45

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I have said this before. And l will say again. DT is a BUSINESSMAN and NOT a politician. He will cause major problems in America.
I think the American will see through DT.

What he is doing with the Mexican Border is stopping the work force. When l was in America many years ago. I saw loads of Mexican workers. He is trying to build a major gap between the two countries.

What amazed me was during the election. This was brought up where a property was actually on the border. There back garden was in Mexico. And the front was in American soil. She stated that there are patrols each day, as Mexicans use there garden to get into America. And she is NOT prepared to move or stop the Mexicans get into American.

She believe EVERYONE is equal, and NOT to stop someone looking for work to support there family.

And l personally thought that was brilliant. And that she had the right attitude.
Trump will cause trouble. From what l read in American newspapers. Trump is even thinking of sacking the special counsel, who is investigating the Russian stuff

1andrew1 03-04-2018 23:34

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Will be interesting to see how this goes. I think there is a good degree of sympathy for the US case over the theft of intellectual property rights but this threatens to become a lose-lose situation for both countries.
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The Trump administration said it will within weeks begin imposing a 25 per cent tariff on 1,333 products from China ranging from industrial robots and electric cars to locomotives, jet engines and snowblowers in retaliation for what it says has been decades of state-backed intellectual property theft by Beijing.
https://www.ft.com/content/2c427f96-...e-e06bde01c544

Mick 04-04-2018 01:37

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
BREAKING: Just in: Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.ba13eececb8b

Hugh 04-04-2018 09:32

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35942514)
For fear of sounding disrespectful, is the National Guard the equivalent of Dad's Army?

No, they are well trained and equipped (NG and National Air Guard units have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan).

Hugh 04-04-2018 16:14

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942536)
BREAKING: Just in: Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.ba13eececb8b

From the linked article
Quote:

according to three people familiar with the discussions.
From previous tweets by President Spanky
Quote:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Remember, when you hear the words "sources say" from the Fake Media, often times those sources are made up and do not exist.

11:32 AM - 12 Jul 2017
Quote:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

With all of its phony unnamed sources & highly slanted & even fraudulent reporting, #Fake News is DISTORTING DEMOCRACY in our country!

12:15 PM - 16 Jul 2017
Also from the linked article
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Mueller’s description of the president’s status has sparked friction within Trump’s inner circle as his advisers have debated his legal standing. The president and some of his allies seized on the special counsel’s words as an assurance that Trump’s risk of criminal jeopardy is low. Other advisers, however, noted that subjects of investigations can easily become indicted targets — and expressed concern that the special prosecutor was baiting Trump into an interview that could put the president in legal peril.

Mick 04-04-2018 16:31

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh
From previous tweets by President Spanky

Sorry, I don't know who President 'Spanky' is, could get easily confused and think you're talking about Bill Clinton, pretty sure there is a 'maturity' rule somewhere saying people have to refer to things as their proper names... I don't like Labour and referred to them by another name and I got called out for it. I suggest you do the same.


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