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devilincarnate 15-12-2011 18:57
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346032)

I do not have a clue why they are similing unless new channels are coming :confused:
Maybe they are happy:rolleyes:

denphone 15-12-2011 18:59
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346058)
Maybe they are happy:rolleyes:
A excellent explanation Devil.:D

Felim_Doyle 15-12-2011 19:22
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35345869)
If the licence fee is cannot be increased, then can the reqiurement of the lisence fee include, smartphones, tablets and computer as well

Along with Government funding for important services like local radio etc

And an increase of the lisence fee, so you really want the BBC to by like ITV post 1990 broadcasting act
The BBC iPlayer is currently available on a variety of platforms including TVs, computers, smartphones, tablets and games consoles. A TV licence is not required to use the iPlayer to watch programmes which have already been broadcast but the 'Watch Live' simulcast service does require one. However, development of the iPlayer was funded by the licence fee and was criticised for taking years of development before producing a viable product.

Nobody said that BBC local radio stations were in jeopardy but they might be if funding was diverted to local BBC TV stations instead. It might be nice to have local TV services covering local news and events in better times but it is just the wrong time to be doing it. If the idea fails then nobody will try it again for decades because it will be marred by having failed without taking into consideration the economic environment of the time. I don't believe that we should be trying to do this for a few years and I can only cynically suggest that it is proposed as a money earner for the government through licensing and for the BBC and Arqiva through leasing of studio and broadcast facilities and the all important EPG slots and Freeview multiplexes.

The current licence fee subsidised the digital switch-over so it should be sufficient to fund public service broadcasting at its current level and even cover future innovation especially if cost savings are realised within the BBC.

Whilst it would be a shame to see services like BBC World Service (radio)* and BBC World News (TV)* go or reduce their broadcasting hours, this is what the majority of former colonial powers and propaganda merchants have been doing in favour of website content and internet streaming of radio and TV programmes. The Irish national broadcaster RTÉ was due to launch an international service this/next year which VM were expected to carry but have shelved it in favour of expanding their website and on-line player functionality. Radio Netherlands and countless others are restricting their overseas services, especially on short-wave radio, as there is no longer a need to provide these services for ex-patriots with the advent of other delivery mechanisms. The 'colonies' are not as cut off from the world as they used to be!

*BBC World Service (radio) is currently funded by the British Government through a grant from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office but, from 2014, it will be funded by the BBC licence fee. This may be an indication that the FCO no longer feel the need for such a service for the reasons stated above and I feel it is unfair that the domestic licence fee-payers should be funding a service for non-fee-payers abroad.

*BBC World News (TV) is a commercially operated service funded by advertising and competing against other news channels, principally CNN. It has the largest audience of any BBC channel.

Horizon 15-12-2011 19:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35346000)
Can Any Virgin worker tell me:

May I ask if any of you know if Sky have any plans to carry on broadcasting Sky Livingit +1 after January 24th 2012 as Sky are moving Sky Living +1 onto it Sky EPG Channel number from that date and I cant find info on where Sky Livingit +1 is moving to on Sky?

I have try ''Sky Livingit +1 may close'' and nothing.

Thanks for any info.
The only channel that Sky has said it's closing for sure, and I'm sure its been mentioned here already is Sky Living Loves. Again (I think) as already mentioned in this thread, VM is to get rid of Current TV at some point next year and I'd suggest that E! Enterntainment will also get the push due to low viewing figures. This would free up EPG slots in the right places for channels such as Channel 5+1.

I said on the Sky threads multiple times on DS that when Sky took over Vm's channels, I could not see most of them surviving a year. I would not be surprised if Sky Living It and It's (excuse the pun) +1 get axed as well, but don't know for sure.

Felim_Doyle 15-12-2011 19:53
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35345919)
I understand what you are saying, but my ideas are two seperate ideas

Increasing the Lisence fee is only one option of more funding the bbc, the governement could directly give money for important services like local radio etc
So we should fund the BBC both through the licence fee and through other forms of direct or indirect taxation? :td:

There are far more appropriate ways that the BBC can manage to operate within their current budget without affecting quality. It is also very important that the BBC's funding should be easily identifiable rather than being hidden in back door government funding from the tax-payer. If anything, the BBC needs to become more autonomous and more business-like and less like a state owned broadcaster.

Horizon 15-12-2011 20:06
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35345621)
Media Boy's 2011 year in review.

The following channels has launch on Virgin TV this year:
Ch 114. ITV1 +1 (England and Wales only - On Jan 11th).
Ch 114. STV +1 (Scotland only - On Jan 11th).
Ch 114. UTV +1 (N. Ireland only - On Jan 11th).
Ch 189. True Entertainment (On Mar 1st).
Ch 826. COLOURS (On Apr 1st).
Ch 974. Sunrise Radio London (On Apr 1st).
Ch 282. Sky Arts 1 HD (On Apr 26th).
Ch 284. Sky Arts 2 HD (On Apr 26th).
Ch 188. BBC ALBA (Scotland only - On May 18th)
Ch 554. PPV Live Events Help (On Jun 27th).
Ch 555. TiVo Pay Per Views (On Jun 27th).
Ch 441. Sky Movies Classic HD (On Oct 4th).
Ch 204. Yesterday +1 (On Oct 7th).
Ch 209. Eden HD (On Oct 7th).
Ch 210. Eden +1 (On Oct 7th).
Ch 261. Good Food HD (On Oct 7th).
Ch 129. Dave HD (On Oct 10th).
Ch 125. Watch HD (On Oct 12th).
Ch 243. PBS (On Nov 1st).
Ch 546. Box Nation (On Dec 1st).
Ch 192. CBS Action (On Dec 15th).
Ch 193. Sony TV UK (On Dec 15th).
Ch 621. NDTV (On Dec 15th).
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35345691)
Thats a pretty impressive lists in my mind and lets hope next year brings more of the same.
I beg to differ!

Apart from the 3 new channels today, there has only been 2 other genuine new channels this year, PBS and True Entertainment which have launched on cable.

The rest are +1s or HD versions of existing channels. And some channels like Yesterday+1 and Eden+1 are only relaunches as their predecessor channels used to be on cable before they were removed (UK History+1 and UK Docs+1 removed in 2008.)

Plus Vm has removed several channels over the last few years, many because of the VMtv sale to Sky. If VM bring back channels such as MTV Classic, More 4 +1, History +1, Animal Planet +1 that were removed plus add channels that should've been on the platform ages ago ie, History HD. Then add more recent channels such as the rest of the CBS ones, Universal HD, ITV's HDs etc, then it is adding choice.

But at the moment, I don't see how removing some channels with one hand and adding others with another is adding to choice. It's just keeping things level.

Henkesghost 15-12-2011 20:06
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Only Sky Atlantic left as a glaring omission from Virgin for me, perfectly happy otherwise. Some more HD not essential but would be nice. Anyway Christmas party season starts tomorrow, all presents bought time for the fun to start so Happy Christmas to you all from yer number 10 poster:D Bring on the booze:D:D

HDFootyMan 15-12-2011 20:10
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35345981)
At some point the balance of HD to SD channels will swing and there will be little incentive to continue to support SD variants of channels where there is a HD equivalent. To achieve that, everyone will either have to be fully HD-ready or have a means of down-scaling HD content for SD viewing equipment. That either means having a HD STB or the satellite or cable provider doing the down-scaling centrally. Maybe that's how it works for some channels now. I'd like to see it happen maybe some time in 2013 and definitely by 2015 but there are obstacles.

I feel sorry for DVB-T (FreeView) and DVB-S (particularly FreeSat) customers who have recently purchased equipment but did not opt for HD STBs as they may have to upgrade at a cost sooner than they expected.

Alternatively, the tail could wag the dog and we might be stuck with SD until the majority of people have upgraded and that could take years.

When digital TV was coming, I don't think enough emphasis was put on the fact that HD was rolling out too.
A typical HD channel takes up around x4 the bandwidth of a SD channnel. Even if you closed all the SD channels, its doubtful there would be enough bandwidth for a HD version of every SD channel - unless you start reducing the bitrate of those HD channels (in which case they become HD-lite).

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 20:11
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35346114)
Some more HD not essential but would be nice. Anyway Christmas party season starts tomorrow, all presents bought time for the fun to start so Happy Christmas to you all from yer number 10 poster:D Bring on the booze:D:D
Very very true:D And the Beer and other spirits are flowing here (Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Sambuca ETC):) My posts will get more and more random till after the new year

Felim_Doyle 15-12-2011 20:18
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35345948)
I have been calling on this for years but I think BBC Three and BBC Four need to merge and rebrand as BBC Extra.

That way the BBC can get some money in by selling off two Sky EPG Channels numbers.
At one time, when there were just two BBC TV channels, BBC1 was the entertainment and news channel and BBC2 was the cultural channel.* Then we went through the 'dumbing down' phase, as it was known, when quality really fell. Now we have BBC One and BBC Two but with less distinction between their individual purposes. We also have BBC Three, the 'dumb and dumber' channel, and BBC Four, the cultural channel like the BBC we used to know and love. So, there is definitely some overlap and room for a saving by redistribution of programming.

I can't see a merger of Three and Four as they are polar opposites. More likely marriages would be One with Three and Two with Four. I also find it hard to believe that there is any BBC Three content that is suitable for broadcast in the afternoon slots of BBC One and BBC Two to fill the void left by the reduction in original and imported daytime programming on those channels as has been suggested.

*Although wasn't the Young Ones shown on BBC2 or am I confusing the University Challenge episode with the real University Challenge?

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 20:23
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346126)
*Although wasn't the Young Ones shown on BBC2 or am I confusing the University Challenge episode with the real University Challenge?
No you are correct as it was shown on BBC2.

Quote:
The Young Ones is a British sitcom, first broadcast in 1982, which ran for two series on BBC2. Its anarchic, offbeat humour helped bring alternative comedy to television in the 1980s and made household names of its writers and performers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Ones_(TV_series)

Felim_Doyle 15-12-2011 20:26
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35345958)
There would be an outcry if CBeebies closed/merged, believe me :)
From parents or toddlers? :erm: :)

muppetman11 15-12-2011 20:31
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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346120)
A typical HD channel takes up around x4 the bandwidth of a SD channnel. Even if you closed all the SD channels, its doubtful there would be enough bandwidth for a HD version of every SD channel - unless you start reducing the bitrate of those HD channels (in which case they become HD-lite).
But newer standards eradicate this issue to some extent look on satellite at the change from DVB-S to DVB-S2.

Quote:
DVB-S2 achieves a significantly better performance than its predecessors – mainly allowing for an increase of available bitrate over the same satellite transponder bandwidth. The measured DVB-S2 performance gain over DVB-S is around 30% at the same satellite transponder bandwidth and emitted signal power. When the contribution of improvements in video compression is added, an (MPEG-4 AVC) HDTV service can now be delivered in the same bandwidth that supported an early DVB-S based MPEG-2 SDTV service only a decade before.
Quote:
The conversion process from DVB-S to DVB-S2 is being accelerated, due to the rapid increase of HDTV and introduction of 3D-HDTV
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...le_mobile_site

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 20:31
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346134)
From parents or toddlers? :erm: :)
From both as I have a 7 month old who loves the channel and the other 2 (8 and 9 year old's loved the channel growing up).
Well the 8 year old still does as he is Autistic and has a learning age of 4, The school that he is at lets all the Autistic kids watch it it as it is a good learning platform for them?

HD Boy 15-12-2011 21:01
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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346120)
A typical HD channel takes up around x4 the bandwidth of a SD channnel. Even if you closed all the SD channels, its doubtful there would be enough bandwidth for a HD version of every SD channel - unless you start reducing the bitrate of those HD channels (in which case they become HD-lite).
Virgin Media announced in Dec 2010 that they want to have 80 HD channels in 2 or 3 years.

Virgin Media's Peter Chapman of Associate Director, Content Acquisition told me in a email that they are currently on track to deliver that.

So i believe 2012 will be the best year yet.

Media Boy UK 15-12-2011 21:04
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35346097)
The only channel that Sky has said it's closing for sure, and I'm sure its been mentioned here already is Sky Living Loves. Again (I think) as already mentioned in this thread, VM is to get rid of Current TV at some point next year and I'd suggest that E! Enterntainment will also get the push due to low viewing figures. This would free up EPG slots in the right places for channels such as Channel 5+1.

I said on the Sky threads multiple times on DS that when Sky took over Vm's channels, I could not see most of them surviving a year. I would not be surprised if Sky Living It and It's (excuse the pun) +1 get axed as well, but don't know for sure.
Why did Virgin did not do this for?

149. CBS Action
448. Horror Channel (moving from Ch. 149)

I think we will ever know how Virgin works out their EPG Channels.

I mean look that Pick TV (On Channel 180) then they have Comedy Extra (On Channel 185) then no room to play with after BBC HD (On Channel 187).

Arthurgray50@blu 15-12-2011 21:08
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According to DS, three channels started today, but didn't state what channels are closing on January 1st and there is two of them.

Media Boy UK 15-12-2011 21:10
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346152)
According to DS, three channels started today, but didn't state what channels are closing on January 1st and there is two of them.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5288.html

HD Boy 15-12-2011 21:11
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35346151)
Why did Virgin did not do this for?

149. CBS Action
448. Horror Channel (moving from Ch. 149)

I think we will ever know how Virgin works out their EPG Channels.

I mean look that Pick TV (On Channel 180) then they have Comedy Extra (On Channel 185) then no room to play with after BBC HD (On Channel 187).
Also Syfy HD and Syfy + 1 on channel 165 and channel 166 respectively

I think i know the reason why 2 of the EPG slots on channel 136 , 137 , 138 are not occupied.

denphone 15-12-2011 21:11
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346152)
According to DS, three channels started today, but didn't state what channels are closing on January 1st and there is two of them.
But that was last year Arthur.

HDFootyMan 15-12-2011 21:13
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35346136)
But newer standards eradicate this issue to some extent look on satellite at the change from DVB-S to DVB-S2.





http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...le_mobile_site
Is Sky's STB hardware DVB-S2 compatible? If not... :erm:

You've got the cable version of that, DVB-C2, but I'm not sure if the TiVos (or even VM's network as it stands) could support that.

Besides, do we really NEED everything featuring Katie Price in HD? Please, think of the children. And the wasted bandwidth. :)

HD Boy 15-12-2011 21:19
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Also where will Alibi + 1 go when Alibi HD launches by September 2012 ?

My guess is Alibi + 1 will go to channel 194.

So i think Alibi HD will launch on channel 131

---------- Post added at 20:19 ---------- Previous post was at 20:16 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346156)
But that was last year Arthur.
Also January 1st 2012 is a sunday.

Lew 15-12-2011 21:21
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346152)
According to DS, three channels started today, but didn't state what channels are closing on January 1st and there is two of them.
Of course, the 2 channels could quite easily be 554 and 555, couldn't they? ;)

denphone 15-12-2011 21:21
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346159)
Also where will Alibi + 1 go when Alibi HD launches by September 2012 ?

My guess is Alibi + 1 will go to channel 194.

So i think Alibi HD will launch on channel 131

---------- Post added at 20:19 ---------- Previous post was at 20:16 ----------



Also January 1st 2012 is a sunday.
Well Arthur probably did not notice that.:)

Digital Fanatic 15-12-2011 21:25
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346165)
Well Arthur probably did not notice that.:)
Bless him https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/12/28.gif

zekeisaszekedoes 15-12-2011 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35346033)
I think you are reading too much in to <small tidbit of TV-related news>
FTFY. It can now be retroactively applied to all his posts. :wavey:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35345998)
Again with the BBC and the licence fee! :(
Yeah it's odd eh? Generally no-one uses vinyl any more, but you wouldn't know it from the couple of broken record types on CF. :p: :D


Quote:
Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35345981)
Alternatively, the tail could wag the dog and we might be stuck with SD until the majority of people have upgraded and that could take years.
And that is exactly what is going to happen. I'm not kidding, most of the non-geek types I've spoken to can't really see the difference between HD and SD. In many cases because they haven't bothered to calibrate their brand spanking new HD TV sets, it has to be said.

All those hours you spend staring at the bloody thing, would make sense to get it looking as good as possible, including using HD channels when available. You would think. But most people don't work like that. It's why my sub £300 LCD TV looks better than some poorly calibrated £500+ LCD TVs - the devil's in the details or something.

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 21:28
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35346167)
Is that what you really think:)

---------- Post added at 20:28 ---------- Previous post was at 20:27 ----------

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346168)
the devil's in the details or something.
No I'am not:D

HD Boy 15-12-2011 21:28
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346164)
Of course, the 2 channels could quite easily be 554 and 555, couldn't they? ;)
Well spiderplant did say
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post6437.html

It is only a matter of when that happens. So Live Events will be on channel 0 on Tivo like the Virgin Media legacy boxes.

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 21:32
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346171)
Well spiderplant did say
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post6437.html

It is only a matter of when that happens. So Live Events will be on channel 0 on Tivo like the Virgin Media legacy boxes.
I read what SP said and no-where did he say that they would be on Channel 0:( They will be on what ever they will be when all the changes are implemented :erm:

Media Boy UK 15-12-2011 21:36
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346171)
Well spiderplant did say
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post6437.html

It is only a matter of when that happens. So Live Events will be on channel 0 on Tivo like the Virgin Media legacy boxes.
My Insider has confirm that.

It will happen eventually - but not right now.

HD Boy 15-12-2011 21:37
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35346177)
My Insider has confirm that.

It will happen eventually - but not right now.
Thanks for the info Media Boy.

zekeisaszekedoes 15-12-2011 21:56
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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346120)
A typical HD channel takes up around x4 the bandwidth of a SD channnel. Even if you closed all the SD channels, its doubtful there would be enough bandwidth for a HD version of every SD channel - unless you start reducing the bitrate of those HD channels (in which case they become HD-lite).
Or convert the entire broadcast network of that provider to MPEG-4, rather than MPEG-2 which is pretty deprecated at this point. Of course it's not likely due to having to support old legacy STBs that aren't MPEG-4 capable... just like SD channels taking a while to fall into obsolescence, this could be a long time coming.

As usual, everyone in front has to wait for the lowest common denominator to catch up. Let's face it, we all know there are people out there still using their old wood-panel Baird TVs from the 70s with the curvy screens, massive overscan and stupid amounts of blooming, an LCD might scare the crap out of them, what with all those buttons and animated menus. :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346126)
I can't see a merger of Three and Four as they are polar opposites. More likely marriages would be One with Three and Two with Four. I also find it hard to believe that there is any BBC Three content that is suitable for broadcast in the afternoon slots of BBC One and BBC Two to fill the void left by the reduction in original and imported daytime programming on those channels as has been suggested.
I was happier when there were fewer BBC channels, because the bar was higher. It wasn't a case of cramming spare slots with whatever cheap-to-produce reality trash people would sit and get dumber to, it was more like "if the quality isn't reasonably high, it isn't getting aired". The way the BBC is now in terms of TV, I'd be happy with BBC1, BBC2, BBC 1 HD and BBC 2 HD as long as they cut the right corners (i.e. weaker programs) in order to thin the herd and keep the best programming.


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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35346151)
I think we will ever know how Virgin works out their EPG Channels.
Yeah it is a bit doolally... they could at least start the channels at 001, rather than 101. Make it more like Freeview, that'd help new customers.


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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346157)
Besides, do we really NEED everything featuring Katie Price in HD? Please, think of the children. And the wasted bandwidth. :)
Hey, I like those kinds of shows. It gives me an excuse to repeatedly drum on the :td: button in rage. :D


Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346169)
No I'am not:D
Damn, accidental pun... ;)

devilincarnate 15-12-2011 22:04
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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346194)
Damn, accidental pun... ;)
Need to do better:D:D:D:D

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:06
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As we are Taking about the Virgin EPG.

A advertisement on CBS Action said the horror channel was on Virgin channel 170.

Are they moving horror channel to channel 170 so CBS Action can move to channel 149 ?

If this turns out to be true this means Alibi + 1 could get moved to channel 192 when Alibi HD launches on channel 131 by September 2012.

Lew 15-12-2011 22:11
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346171)
I know. I was just pointing out that just because someone has said 2 channels will be closed doesn't mean its the end of the world.

Alan Fry 15-12-2011 22:12
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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35345998)
Again with the BBC and the licence fee! :(

I knew what you meant, Alan: better content on the channels that we already have and more channels on VM that are already available from other providers.

I agree that it's odd that the government are proposing these local channels at a time when the mainstream UK channels are struggling and local newspapers and radio stations are going under. We have Mix 96 as our local radio station in Aylesbury but the counterpart in High Wycombe, owned by the same group and formerly broadcasting on two frequencies, went under a few years back having made a loss year after year due to lack of advertising revenue.

Maybe it was because High Wycombe is in the catchment area of other stations that don't reach Aylesbury but it seemed odd that a major town like that couldn't support a local radio station but a town like Luton is expected to support a TV channel. If we are to have local channels they should be capable of operating self-sufficiently or perhaps with a small public service grant but not as satellites (non-orbiting :rolleyes:) of the BBC with their civil service mentality and employment terms. The BBC already has regional TV and radio to look after they don't need more responsibility or more funding.
They have a strong presence in terms if regional radio, but weak in terms of regional tv (really all they have is a few regional programmes)

ncfc1902 15-12-2011 22:13
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346152)
According to DS, three channels started today, but didn't state what channels are closing on January 1st and there is two of them.
Nothing to do with DS. It's just a comment someone has done via Facebook on the DS report of three channels launching on VM.

zantarous 15-12-2011 22:17
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Have to say I like the line up on CBS Action reminds me of what Bravo used to be like when it was a good channel. although how bad does TNG look now. Sony also seems like a interesting addition.

On a separate note i see Comedy Central has gone widescreen but the +1 and Extra channel seems to be in 4:3 but the actual picture appears to be a squashed widescreen image where everything looks tall and thin. It looks very odd, I did notice that CC was like this for a few weeks before the switch to 16x9 was made.

Alan Fry 15-12-2011 22:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346076)
The BBC iPlayer is currently available on a variety of platforms including TVs, computers, smartphones, tablets and games consoles. A TV licence is not required to use the iPlayer to watch programmes which have already been broadcast but the 'Watch Live' simulcast service does require one. However, development of the iPlayer was funded by the licence fee and was criticised for taking years of development before producing a viable product.

Nobody said that BBC local radio stations were in jeopardy but they might be if funding was diverted to local BBC TV stations instead. It might be nice to have local TV services covering local news and events in better times but it is just the wrong time to be doing it. If the idea fails then nobody will try it again for decades because it will be marred by having failed without taking into consideration the economic environment of the time. I don't believe that we should be trying to do this for a few years and I can only cynically suggest that it is proposed as a money earner for the government through licensing and for the BBC and Arqiva through leasing of studio and broadcast facilities and the all important EPG slots and Freeview multiplexes.

The current licence fee subsidised the digital switch-over so it should be sufficient to fund public service broadcasting at its current level and even cover future innovation especially if cost savings are realised within the BBC.

Whilst it would be a shame to see services like BBC World Service (radio)* and BBC World News (TV)* go or reduce their broadcasting hours, this is what the majority of former colonial powers and propaganda merchants have been doing in favour of website content and internet streaming of radio and TV programmes. The Irish national broadcaster RTÉ was due to launch an international service this/next year which VM were expected to carry but have shelved it in favour of expanding their website and on-line player functionality. Radio Netherlands and countless others are restricting their overseas services, especially on short-wave radio, as there is no longer a need to provide these services for ex-patriots with the advent of other delivery mechanisms. The 'colonies' are not as cut off from the world as they used to be!

*BBC World Service (radio) is currently funded by the British Government through a grant from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office but, from 2014, it will be funded by the BBC licence fee. This may be an indication that the FCO no longer feel the need for such a service for the reasons stated above and I feel it is unfair that the domestic licence fee-payers should be funding a service for non-fee-payers abroad.

*BBC World News (TV) is a commercially operated service funded by advertising and competing against other news channels, principally CNN. It has the largest audience of any BBC channel.
I do understand what you are saying, but the BBC world service and world news services are still important and now you can get them online, I feel that we need to expand the lisesnce fee to make it fit for purpose for this day and age.

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346105)
So we should fund the BBC both through the licence fee and through other forms of direct or indirect taxation? :td:

There are far more appropriate ways that the BBC can manage to operate within their current budget without affecting quality. It is also very important that the BBC's funding should be easily identifiable rather than being hidden in back door government funding from the tax-payer. If anything, the BBC needs to become more autonomous and more business-like and less like a state owned broadcaster.
Which Is why I feel that the BBC should control the licence fee, not the government.

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35346113)
I beg to differ!

Apart from the 3 new channels today, there has only been 2 other genuine new channels this year, PBS and True Entertainment which have launched on cable.

The rest are +1s or HD versions of existing channels. And some channels like Yesterday+1 and Eden+1 are only relaunches as their predecessor channels used to be on cable before they were removed (UK History+1 and UK Docs+1 removed in 2008.)

Plus Vm has removed several channels over the last few years, many because of the VMtv sale to Sky. If VM bring back channels such as MTV Classic, More 4 +1, History +1, Animal Planet +1 that were removed plus add channels that should've been on the platform ages ago ie, History HD. Then add more recent channels such as the rest of the CBS ones, Universal HD, ITV's HDs etc, then it is adding choice.

But at the moment, I don't see how removing some channels with one hand and adding others with another is adding to choice. It's just keeping things level.
I would agree that 100%, I also think that removing Current TV would be a bad idea

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:29
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346212)
I also think that removing Current TV would be a bad idea
How much would you be willing to pay to keep it ?

Alan Fry 15-12-2011 22:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346216)
How much would you be willing to pay to keep it ?
Do you really have to ask this question every time?

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346221)
Do you really have to ask this question every time?
going by your other posts it looks like you are made of money. So that means you would actually pay to keep Current TV ?

Alan Fry 15-12-2011 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346223)
going by your other posts that means you would actually pay to keep Current TV ?
I would rather get rid of QVC rather than Current TV

HD Boy 15-12-2011 22:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346229)
I would rather get rid of QVC rather than Current TV
Not going to happen
Quote:
it's important to remember that shopping channels pay VM to be on the platform. This brings in revenue for other pay channels to be added ;)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5132.html

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346203)
As we are Taking about the Virgin EPG.

A advertisement on CBS Action said the horror channel was on Virgin channel 170.

Are they moving horror channel to channel 170 so CBS Action can move to channel 149 ?
If this turns out to be true this means Alibi + 1 could get moved to channel 192 when Alibi HD launches on channel 131 by September 2012.
Media Boy do you know anything about this ?

toady 15-12-2011 22:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346229)
I would rather get rid of QVC rather than Current TV
You'd have a fight on your hands with my missus if that's the option :D

zekeisaszekedoes 15-12-2011 23:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346203)
As we are Taking about the Virgin EPG.
Nah mate, the Comcast one. :p:

Quote:
Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35346210)
On a separate note i see Comedy Central has gone widescreen but the +1 and Extra channel seems to be in 4:3 but the actual picture appears to be a squashed widescreen image where everything looks tall and thin. It looks very odd, I did notice that CC was like this for a few weeks before the switch to 16x9 was made.
Might be something to do with the way the TiVo (well I'm assuming that's what you're using) handles pillarboxing. Some channels broadcast the black bars either side of the 4:3 image so the TiVo stays in widescreen mode, other times the TiVo adds them in assuming you have it set to Panel mode. Sometimes one or the other is incorrect and you end up with a windowboxed image... very annoying.

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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35346243)
You'd have a fight on your hands with my missus if that's the option :D
Yep, women lap up that consumerist sh.. don't they? Well, some of them.

muppetman11 15-12-2011 23:37
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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346157)
Is Sky's STB hardware DVB-S2 compatible? If not... :erm:
It must be as the BBC switched to it , and we get those channels
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...annels_on.html

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346157)
You've got the cable version of that, DVB-C2, but I'm not sure if the TiVos (or even VM's network as it stands) could support that.
No not sure myself , Spider would probably know.

richard1960 15-12-2011 23:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346229)
I would rather get rid of QVC rather than Current TV
I agree current TV has some interesting programmes to watch on it at the moment they are showing "the crimes that shocked britain" i have watched some good documentary style programmes on current TV.:)

What does QVC stand for "Quite Valueless C---" :D:D:D

mhatter67 15-12-2011 23:48
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Apart from HD variant channels, SKY Alantic and Premier Sports is there any great channels that we are missing on VM platform or have we got the main ones?

richard1960 15-12-2011 23:54
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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35346264)
Apart from HD variant channels, SKY Alantic and Premier Sports is there any great channels that we are missing on VM platform or have we got the main ones?
I think all the main channels that are worth watching are on VM now apart from the obvious one you mentioned and HD variants,i cannot think of any that are missing that are that good.

Unless you count the scuzz/flaunt range of channels that VM no longer carry.

HD Boy 15-12-2011 23:59
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Well i really want Universal HD , ITV4 HD

I hope they come in the first half of next year.

richard1960 16-12-2011 00:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346268)
Well i really want Universal HD and ITV4 HD
They will probably arrive in time ITV4 HD carries some good sport so that would be well worth having.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 00:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346148)
Virgin Media announced in Dec 2010 that they want to have 80 HD channels in 2 or 3 years.

Virgin Media's Peter Chapman of Associate Director, Content Acquisition told me in a email that they are currently on track to deliver that.

So i believe 2012 will be the best year yet.
I am still not sure what "watch this space" in the electric magazine means. Did it mean this month ? or in the future ?

I think New HD channels will be announced early next year.

mhatter67 16-12-2011 00:12
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35346266)
I think all the main channels that are worth watching are on VM now apart from the obvious one you mentioned and HD variants,i cannot think of any that are missing that are that good.

Unless you count the scuzz/flaunt range of channels that VM no longer carry.
Media boy is Sumo TV coming soon:D

Lew 16-12-2011 00:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346255)
Might be something to do with the way the TiVo (well I'm assuming that's what you're using) handles pillarboxing. Some channels broadcast the black bars either side of the 4:3 image so the TiVo stays in widescreen mode, other times the TiVo adds them in assuming you have it set to Panel mode. Sometimes one or the other is incorrect and you end up with a windowboxed image... very annoying.
It's not just the TiVo, it's the same on the V+ as well.

paultrademark 16-12-2011 00:12
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Drop all the filth channels and free up the bandwith.. thats what the internets for :P

zekeisaszekedoes 16-12-2011 00:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346279)
It's not just the TiVo, it's the same on the V+ as well.
Ah, thought it might be. I was watching something with that charming eccentric old steeplejack in it on YeSTERDAY and it was pillarboxed with wrong aspect ratio, had to throw the TiVo into 4:3 mode and fiddle with the TV's zoom controls to get it right. You'd think the broadcaster would notice massive technical mistakes like that.

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346273)
I am still not sure what "watch this space" in the electric magazine means. Did it mean this month ? or in the future ?
Really, you don't know what that means? It's a pretty common stock phrase for any magazine dealing in news of some kind or another. It means WAIT AND SEE.

[Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed]

v0id 16-12-2011 00:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35346280)
Drop all the filth channels and free up the bandwith.. thats what the internets for :P

Drop all the timeshift channels too, that's what a PVR is for

richard1960 16-12-2011 00:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35346278)
Media boy is Sumo TV coming soon:D
:D:D:D:D:D

Or this even VM need to get it,the channel even has Red Button functionality.;)



http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/84...ed-TV-channel/

HD Boy 16-12-2011 00:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35346288)
:D:D:D:D:D

Or this even VM need to get it,the channel even has Red Button functionality.;)



http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/84...ed-TV-channel/
You do know that article is over 3 years old.

richard1960 16-12-2011 00:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346289)
You do know that article is over 3 years old.
It is indeed HD boy but the channel is still broadcasting so makes no difference.:)

Lighten up it was only intended to be a humerous posting mate.:)

HD Boy 16-12-2011 00:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35346293)
It is indeed HD boy but the channel is still broadcasting so makes no difference.:)
Was Ocean Finance not on Watchdog ?

richard1960 16-12-2011 00:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346294)
Was Ocean Finance not on Watchdog ?
Very probably nothing surpirses me with them.:D:D

denphone 16-12-2011 07:26
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zantarous;35346210]Have to say I like the line up on CBS Action reminds me of what Bravo used to be like when it was a good channel. although how bad does TNG look now. Sony also seems like a interesting addition.
Here here.:clap:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35346264)
Apart from HD variant channels, SKY Alantic and Premier Sports is there any great channels that we are missing on VM platform or have we got the main ones?
CBS Drama is one l would like.

spiderplant 16-12-2011 10:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35346258)
No not sure myself , Spider would probably know.
I'm not aware of any DVB-C2 chipsets in mass production. In fact I can see DVB-C2 being a failure, because it's a big investment for relatively little gain. There are better ways to get more out of cable.

the_pidgeon 16-12-2011 12:37
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The 99 poker/racing channels on Sky :)

HD Boy 16-12-2011 16:50
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Could the BBC launch BBC Two HD and also Keep BBC HD ?

I hope that happens.

Quote:
Ofcom said that the spare capacity will be handed back to the BBC, and it will be up to the corporation to decide the future of the additional HD network.

"Ofcom has been notified by Channel 5 Broadcasting Limited that it does not wish to proceed with its application for the fifth HD capacity slot on digital terrestrial TV at the present time," said Ofcom in a short statement.

"Subject to any future Ofcom decision to re-advertise the slot, the capacity will remain with the Multiplex operator BBC Free-to-View Limited and can be used by it for BBC services or services provided by a third party via a commercial arrangement."

The BBC now faces another dilemma over what to do with the spare capacity. It could maintain carriage of the BBC HD channel to provide an outlet for HD content from BBC Three and BBC Four, or it could launch an entirely new network, possibly one dedicated to HD sport in time for the Olympics.

Alternatively, an agreement could be reached with ITV, Channel 4 or another third-party broadcaster to bring a different HD channel to Freeview.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-freeview.html

denphone 16-12-2011 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346547)
Could the BBC launch BBC Two HD and also Keep BBC HD ?

I hope that happens.


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-freeview.html
l doubt it.

devilincarnate 16-12-2011 17:02
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Alternatively, an agreement could be reached with ITV, Channel 4 or another third-party broadcaster to bring a different HD channel to Freeview.
The only one that I could see out of those 2 is Channel 4, For More 4 HD?

HD Boy 16-12-2011 17:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346559)
The only one that I could see out of those 2 is Channel 4, For More 4 HD?
Also E4 HD or Film4 HD.



Quote:
[Freeview HD currently offers four HD channels - BBC One HD, the BBC HD Channel (due to turn into the BBC Two HD under BBC plans), ITV1 HD and Channel 4 HD - but a fifth channel is scheduled to launch in April next year.
We will find early next year.


Come on the BBC do something good and launch BBC Two HD in april and also keep BBC HD.

So they could make BBC HD mainly focused around BBC Three and BBC Four.

pk1 16-12-2011 17:30
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Would like to see film4 HD

devilincarnate 16-12-2011 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35346578)
Would like to see film4 HD
Try channel 429:erm:

HD Boy 16-12-2011 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346581)
Try channel 429:erm:
LOL :D:D

denphone 16-12-2011 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346581)
Try channel 429:erm:
Yes good old Gene with his dancing shows is on there at the moment.:D

Rillington 16-12-2011 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35346113)
I beg to differ!

Apart from the 3 new channels today, there has only been 2 other genuine new channels this year, PBS and True Entertainment which have launched on cable.

The rest are +1s or HD versions of existing channels. And some channels like Yesterday+1 and Eden+1 are only relaunches as their predecessor channels used to be on cable before they were removed (UK History+1 and UK Docs+1 removed in 2008.)

Plus Vm has removed several channels over the last few years, many because of the VMtv sale to Sky. If VM bring back channels such as MTV Classic, More 4 +1, History +1, Animal Planet +1 that were removed plus add channels that should've been on the platform ages ago ie, History HD. Then add more recent channels such as the rest of the CBS ones, Universal HD, ITV's HDs etc, then it is adding choice.

But at the moment, I don't see how removing some channels with one hand and adding others with another is adding to choice. It's just keeping things level.
I agree.

And it's worth stating that True Entertainment launched in replacement for another chnanel which was removed at the same time.

Also to be fair, we have to mention the appearance of BoxNation.

VM needs to start adding more of the missing channels in 2012.

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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35346280)
Drop all the filth channels and free up the bandwith.. thats what the internets for :P
I disagree about dropping all the "filth" channels but I do think that all adult programing should only be on the on demand service as this would free up more bandwidth on the linear platform.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346212)
I would agree that 100%, I also think that removing Current TV would be a bad idea
I agree. I hope that VM retracts on this decision, especially as there has always been programming from Current TV in the on demand section and IIRC the reason VM was giving from removing Current TV was because they only want channels which also provide on demand content.

denphone 16-12-2011 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35346606)
I agree.

And it's worth stating that True Entertainment launched in replacement for another chnanel which was removed at the same time.

Also to be fair, we have to mention the appearance of BoxNation.

VM needs to start adding more of the missing channels in 2012.

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I disagree about dropping all the "filth" channels but I do think that all adult programing should only be on the on demand service as this would free up more bandwidth on the linear platform.
Any missing channels l am sure will arrive in due course and really what are we missing apart from Sky Atlantic not many in my mind.

Rillington 16-12-2011 18:55
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Premier Sports and CBS Drama immediately come to mind.

denphone 16-12-2011 18:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35346610)
Premier Sports and CBS Drama immediately come to mind.
On CBS Drama l am sure we will get that next year and on Premier Sports remember that is a subscription channel and l expect that to arrive next year sometime.

Arthurgray50@blu 16-12-2011 19:00
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With all these so called new channels starting, At the present time HOW many channels can start on the network ?

devilincarnate 16-12-2011 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346612)
At the present time HOW many channels can start on the network ?
As many as VM want:D:D:D

HD Boy 16-12-2011 20:05
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Also Virgin Media have said they are in fairly advanced negotiations with premier sports and hope to launch the channel in the coming months.


I have no idea how it will be packaged.

Are we really sure Current TV will get removed ? becuase it has been advertised in the Virgin Media electric magazine for October , November and December.

denphone 16-12-2011 20:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346657)
Are we really sure Current TV will get removed ? becuase it has been advertised in the Virgin Media electric magazine for October , November and December.
Well if it is removed it will be early next year if it does happen and there has been no confirmation of this from Virgin at the present time.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 20:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35346612)
With all these so called new channels starting, At the present time HOW many channels can start on the network ?
Virgin Media have the capacity for Roughly 50 HD channels at the moment , They will have the capacity for 80 HD channels by Dec 2013.

That will increase further when Virgin Media switch to MPEG 4 for HD channels in 4 or 5 years when everyone is on TiVo.

I have no idea about the capacity for SD channels.

Digital Fanatic 16-12-2011 20:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35346606)
I agree.

And it's worth stating that True Entertainment launched in replacement for another chnanel which was removed at the same time.

Also to be fair, we have to mention the appearance of BoxNation.

VM needs to start adding more of the missing channels in 2012.

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I disagree about dropping all the "filth" channels but I do think that all adult programing should only be on the on demand service as this would free up more bandwidth on the linear platform.

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I agree. I hope that VM retracts on this decision, especially as there has always been programming from Current TV in the on demand section and IIRC the reason VM was giving from removing Current TV was because they only want channels which also provide on demand content.
Where has VM said it is removing Current TV? :confused:

RichardCoulter 16-12-2011 20:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346283)
Ah, thought it might be. I was watching something with that charming eccentric old steeplejack in it on YeSTERDAY and it was pillarboxed with wrong aspect ratio, had to throw the TiVo into 4:3 mode and fiddle with the TV's zoom controls to get it right. You'd think the broadcaster would notice massive technical mistakes like that.

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Really, you don't know what that means? It's a pretty common stock phrase for any magazine dealing in news of some kind or another. It means WAIT AND SEE.

[Mod edit - inappropriate comment removed]
Indeed. To be fair though, it has been suggested by others [Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed].

denphone 16-12-2011 20:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35346666)
And your knowledge of VM's network is ? :confused:
Remember he is very close to Mr Berkett.:)

HD Boy 16-12-2011 20:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35346666)
And your knowledge of VM's network is ? :confused:
I am going by what Virgin Media said in Dec 2010 about having 80 HD channels in 2 or 3 years.

It could slightly less than 50 HD channels or it could be slightly more i do not know.

RichardCoulter 16-12-2011 20:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35346664)
Where has VM said it is removing Current TV? :confused:
All they have said is that "Current TV is contracted to be carried until 2012."

Digital Fanatic 16-12-2011 20:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35346673)
All they have said is that "Current TV is contracted to be carried until 2012."
so a new contract can be signed if they both wish :)

RichardCoulter 16-12-2011 20:38
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Yep, but it's telling that they didn't deny the rumour.

It has been suggested by those far more involved with VM than me, that they may be using it's low viewing figures and/or the "leak" about it being removed as a bargaining tool during contract renewal negotiations, for it to be carried cheaper, for free or even for them to have to pay VM to keep it available on their network.

I never bothered with this channel until a few weeks ago, there are actually one or two interesting things on it. I hope they don't drop it.

Digital Fanatic 16-12-2011 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35346677)
Yep, but it's telling that they didn't deny the rumour.

It has been suggested by those far more involved with VM than me, that they may be using it's low viewing figures and/or the "leak" about it being removed as a bargaining tool during contract renewal negotiations, for it to be carried cheaper, for free or even for them to have to pay VM to keep it available on their network.

I never bothered with this channel until a few weeks ago, there are actually one or two interesting things on it. I hope they don't drop it.
VM rarely/never discuss their negotiations in public, so not commenting on it means nothing really.

denphone 16-12-2011 21:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35346694)
VM rarely/never discuss their negatiations in public, so not commenting on it means nothing really.
Quite correct but it will not stop the speculation on this forum though.:D

Digital Fanatic 16-12-2011 21:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346695)
Quite correct but it will not stop the speculation on this forum though.:D
Indeed :D

zekeisaszekedoes 16-12-2011 21:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346663)
Virgin Media have the capacity for Roughly 50 HD channels at the moment , They will have the capacity for 80 HD channels by Dec 2013.

That will increase further when Virgin Media switch to MPEG 4 for HD channels in 4 or 5 years when everyone is on TiVo.
That's wild speculation, even for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35346667)
Indeed. [Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed].
You could be right, and if so he has my sympathies, but if he spreads misinformation then something needs to be said. [Mod Edit - inappropriate comment removed]

HD Boy 16-12-2011 22:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
I think the reason channel 5 HD is not launching on freeview in April 2012 because i think Channel 5 have exclusive arrangements with Virgin Media and Sky until july 2012.

To be honest i think this could be good news for Virgin Media and Sky because it gives the BBC the option to launch BBC Two HD and for BBC HD to continue broadcasting.

Stephen 16-12-2011 22:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346738)
I think the reason channel 5 HD is not launching on freeview in April 2012 because i think Channel 5 have exclusive arrangements with Virgin Media and Sky until july 2012.

To be honest i think this is good news for Virgin Media and Sky because it gives the BBC the option to launch BBC Two HD and for BBC HD to continue broadcasting.
That's not the reason at all.

Also BBC won't launch any more channels. They already announced their plans for the next few years.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 22:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35346741)
That's not the reason at all.

Also BBC won't launch any more channels. They already announced their plans for the next few years.
Plans can change,

Found this guardian article.

Quote:
Channel 5 has ditched plans to launch a high-definition channel on Freeview for the second time in less than two years, after being unable to resolve "issues of commercial importance".

The broadcaster has notified media regulator Ofcom, which is handling the launch of the fifth HD channel on Freeview, that it does not wish to continue to proceed with its application to launch a service.

Channel 5 said it has "decided with regret" to drop its application after being unable to commit to launching on Ofcom's deadline of 2012.

"This decision was taken as it has not proved possible to resolve some issues of commercial importance to Channel 5 in the timescale to which Ofcom has been working," said a Channel 5 spokesman.The Freeview multiplex is run by the BBC so it now has the right to use the vacant HD channel, or to offer it to third parties.

However, Ofcom reserves the right to offer the HD slot to a public service broadcaster in the future. Channel 5 was the only PSB to submit an application this time around.

Channel 5 said it "remains committed" to having a channel on Freeview in the future.

"We will be applying afresh for DTT [Freeview] capacity when it is next advertised by Ofcom," said the Channel 5 spokesman. "We hope this will take place in the near future."

In March last year Channel 5 pulled out of launching a Freeview HD channel after failing to give a launch date or programming schedule to Ofcom.

Freeview has four HD channels: ITV, BBC1, BBC HD and Channel 4.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...freeview-ofcom

m419 16-12-2011 22:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Like I said before,

CBS Drama
BET
BET+1
The Vault
Dance Nation TV
MTV Classics
MTV Music
Scuzz
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Universal HD
TCM2
ITV2HD
ITV3HD
ITV4HD
Nickelodeon HD
Fox News
Sky News HD
Aljazeera
Deutsche Welle
Travel Channel
Fashion TV
Style Network
Hellenic TV

They added CBS Action,Sony tv and NDTV a very wise choice. Now they just have to add the above to meet everyones requirements.

Alan Fry 16-12-2011 22:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346547)
Could the BBC launch BBC Two HD and also Keep BBC HD ?

I hope that happens.


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-freeview.html
More Likely they will launch BBC News HD, the BBC news department will move to a HD newsroom at Broadcasting house soon

HD Boy 16-12-2011 22:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35346745)
Like I said before,

CBS Drama
BET
BET+1
The Vault
Dance Nation TV
MTV Classics
MTV Music
Scuzz
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Universal HD
TCM2
ITV2HD
ITV3HD
ITV4HD
Nickelodeon HD
Fox News
Sky News HD
Aljazeera
Deutsche Welle
Travel Channel
Fashion TV
Style Network
Hellenic TV
I do not see the ones in Bold launching anytime soon.

I'd rather watch QVC for the news, than the crap that is Fox News.


Why do we need Music channels when we have Spotify , Youtube and Music On demand.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346746)
More Likely they will launch BBC News HD,
I doubt it. That would be a waste of HD channel on freeview. BBC Two HD would be a lot better and more likely than BBC News HD.

Also the BBC do not start broadcasting news in HD until late 2012.

BBC News will be in HD on BBC One HD and BBC Two HD.

---------- Post added at 21:36 ---------- Previous post was at 21:33 ----------

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In less than 60 days, the first BBC staff will begin to move into Phase Two of the Broadcasting House
development.
Fit-out contractors, Overbury continue to work on site to put the finishing touches to each floor; and last month, the installation of furniture began, transforming the space into a fit-for-purpose working environment, ready for occupation.
On the newsroom floor, the set and lighting for the BBC news channel and bulletins is under construction, in readiness for the first live news broadcasts later next year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghou...sletter_25.pdf


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