Originally Posted by Dean Ashton (Post 35315168)

Found the update on my TiVo box this evening (I'm in Cambridge), and I'm *very* impressed by the improved speed.. channel changes are almost instant (as is bringing up the guide). Nice to have the pictures from Sky channels continue when in the guide too.

Will play around with some of the other stuff when I have time - I guess I'd best get a network switch bought too if I'm to connect my TiVo to be able to use the upcoming iPad app!

Dean

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35315026)

I am in Cambridge and got the update at 2.00am. The good news for you is that multi room streaming is now catered for in this update.

--John

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35315027)

zantarous will be pleased

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35315170)

How is the SD picture quality has it improved ?

Originally Posted by Dean Ashton (Post 35315168)

Found the update on my TiVo box this evening (I'm in Cambridge), and I'm *very* impressed by the improved speed.. channel changes are almost instant (as is bringing up the guide). Nice to have the pictures from Sky channels continue when in the guide too.

Will play around with some of the other stuff when I have time - I guess I'd best get a network switch bought too if I'm to connect my TiVo to be able to use the upcoming iPad app!

Dean

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35315187)

The guide was always instant (on mine anyway), I believe that's cached in memory.

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35315194)

I think you were the only one then!

Originally Posted by Dean Ashton (Post 35315168)

Found the update on my TiVo box this evening (I'm in Cambridge), and I'm *very* impressed by the improved speed.. channel changes are almost instant (as is bringing up the guide). Nice to have the pictures from Sky channels continue when in the guide too.

Will play around with some of the other stuff when I have time - I guess I'd best get a network switch bought too if I'm to connect my TiVo to be able to use the upcoming iPad app!

Dean

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35315197)

Most definately. The Red Doughnut of Doom has been a regular visitor here, on virtually any menu screen.


Phil

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35315230)

Were talking about the same guide, right? As in the EPG? Pressing the Guide button on the remote? :) ...even old reviews have said that its instant.

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35315230)

Were talking about the same guide, right? As in the EPG? Pressing the Guide button on the remote? :) ...even old reviews have said that its instant.

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35315240)

Pressing the guide button and paging through the channels.

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35315241)

Yep. The EPG was unbelievably slow. I had major lag probs with it and trying to access my recordings was not far off unusable at times. Funnily enough, a full reboot used to cure it for a few days and then it would gradually slow down again.

My thoughts were towards a possible memory leak but nothing was ever confirmed or ruled out.

Phil

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35315245)

Would i be better to get the 1Tb Tivo for Xmas ? I have heard the 500gb Tivo has had problems.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35315250)

Well l have both and can assure you they both work perfectly fine.

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35315255)

Is the 1TB Tivo more future proof ? For example there will be lots of HD channels in years to come

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35315247)

Its easily the fastest part of TiVo's user interface here, and by some distance. Maybe something is wrong with your box? :confused:

My comparsion, My Shows takes around a good 5 to 7 seconds to appear, and I know its not just me because plenty of other people have posted on the Help & Support Forums about the slow speed for that.

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35315137)

As for the pilot rollout area's I dont know as they will be under different terms.

Phil

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35315262)

The only difference between the Tivo boxes is one has more storage space because everything else is the same on both boxes.

Originally Posted by passingbat:35315269

So, you think everyone in the trial areas was made to sign something? Very doubtful in my view as it seems that all the people in the area got it and people weren't even aware they were getting the upgrade.

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35315272)

No, I said I didn't know.

Originally Posted by passingbat:35315274

You said they would be under different terms.

No probs though; I'm just keen to know how the multiroom is implemented.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35315269)

So, you think everyone in the trial areas was made to sign something? Very doubtful in my view as it seems that all the people in the area got it and people weren't even aware they were getting the upgrade.

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35315497)

Having received the update myself, I can confirm that nothing has been signed. The first I was aware of it was when it showed a screen saying that an hour long software update was taking place.

I have read elsewhere that a total of some 3000 TiVo users received the update in Cambridge and Crawley. Whether all users in the two areas got it I’m not sure, but the Cambridge head end serves most if not all the county. I’m not sure how large an area is served by Crawley. But the figure of some 3000 does seem to be on the low side, maybe there was an element of selection involved?

--John

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35315497)

Having received the update myself, I can confirm that nothing has been signed. The first I was aware of it was when it showed a screen saying that an hour long software update was taking place.

I have read elsewhere that a total of some 3000 TiVo users received the update in Cambridge and Crawley. Whether all users in the two areas got it I’m not sure, but the Cambridge head end serves most if not all the county. I’m not sure how large an area is served by Crawley. But the figure of some 3000 does seem to be on the low side, maybe there was an element of selection involved?

--John

Originally Posted by robtuk06 (Post 35315563)

He didn't say country though.

Is he still wrong regardless?

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35315508)

How are you finding the update John?

Originally Posted by robtuk06 (Post 35315563)

He didn't say country though.

Is he still wrong regardless?

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35315570)

Hold on so the current option is now gone and you have to go into my recordings to make changes?

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35315567)

Global padding has been implemented but in a rather simplistic fashion. Now when setting up a series link or an individual programme to record, you now have two options. Record This Episode and Express Series Link, selecting either sets the programme(s) to record with padding of one minute before and four minutes after. If for whatever reason you wish to change the values, you can do so by selecting the programme in My Planned Recordings, and make your required changes. A little annoying but at least you are not stuck with their global padding values.

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 35315572)

No I continue to think I’m correct. But I’m sure that Digital Fanatic (when he regains his composure :)) will correct me.

--John

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Yes I'm afraid so. Before when setting up programmes to record there was a black button named Options - this has now gone

--John

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35315601)

They can't win - people objected when it didn't have global padding, now some are objecting because it does.....

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35315601)

They can't win - people objected when it didn't have global padding, now some are objecting because it does.....

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35315647)

You've gotta love message 57 , funniest thing I've ever heard a customer told

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../775195/page/6

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35315628)

People objected because it didn't allow full control of global padding.

So....what's changed?

What do you think is gonna happen after the update? Clashes all over the place because TiVo uses 2 tuners to record back-to-back programmes on the same channel. The global padding 'fix' will just result in more clashes, more clipped content, and in some cases, missed recordings when there's a 4-way recording clash and the lowest priority programme isn't repeated.

It says a lot that the TiVo developers didn't even add the option to switch padding off, at a global level. Even Stateside Premiere users think its a crap solution and their begging TiVo not to introduce that 'fix' over there:
http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/09/2...-tivos-leaked/

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35315747)

No more options so now you have to use loads of clicks to change the number of episodes to keep and the keep till I delete option? It was perfect before set the options how you like per recording and now they have buried it those in a different screen.

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35315773)

Have to agree and I wanted global padding but VM have managed to implement it is the worst way possible you can think of!

Just copy V+ with padding dropped on back to back recording was clearly too hard for Tivo.

On 'number of episodes' and 'keep until', can anybody with the update stae what the default settings are now for these? They should be "all episodes" and "until I delete" surely!

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35315821)

Padding was perfect once you learnt to use it. Have they removed the old way entirely?

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35315832)

No they havnt. The old way is there for when you need it. When you press record there are three options

3. explore this show-- select this option and the previous series link options are there.

regards

John.

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35315832)

No they havnt. The old way is there for when you need it. When you press record there are three options

3. explore this show-- select this option and the previous series link options are there.

regards

John.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35315842)

But going the above way, is the padding default zero (as it is now) or has it got the new defaults?

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35315843)

Express is new defaults, select explore you can put in what you want for that series.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35315847)

Thanks.

Is the default zero though? That is what I use and if it's not zero, it's two more settings to alter.

Why they couldn't make padding, number of shows and keep until, retain the last used settings, is beyond me.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35315847)

Thanks.

Is the default zero though? That is what I use and if it's not zero, it's two more settings to alter.

Why they couldn't make padding, number of shows and keep until, retain the last used settings, is beyond me.

Originally Posted by sixfoottwo (Post 35315828)

How can you tell when you have had the upgrade?

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35315897)

Somebody on vm help forums now reporting they have 15.2 in Kent.

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35315874)

I would hope that there is an option to set your own default as everyone has different preferences.

Personally I always set 1 min before and 2 mins after and I find this covers most of my recordings. I have actually got used to the series link procedure and like the flexibility as there are two shows I record that always fall outside my default so I changed them accordingly.

Looking forward to the update though, hopefully they have addressed a very basic annoyance for me. Does anyone know if the start and finish time for each show appears at the top of the main EPG when highlighted? It does on the mini guide but not on the main EPG. Its so annoying having to guess the start time when a show doesn't start either on the hour or half hour :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35316143)

Seems the TiVo update causes more problems than it solves. :(

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35316129)

Was the ITV red button on Tivo tonight ?

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35316146)

What problems does it create?

Regards

John

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35316148)

Based on that DS link it makes opening YouTube a game of russian roulette and (in my opinion) have made series links into a farse.

Other places have said upscaling is worse and others say its better so I'l have to see for myself first.

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35316318)

Does anybody know how many subscribers TiVo vm have at the moment? Also are people leaving V+ service in droves for TiVo, I am starting to weaken over to TiVo camp:)

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35316328)

The last heard it was 75,000 It will be more now. We will find when Virgin Media Q3 results come out on October 27th

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35316342)

Thanks for the info, will probably wait for the latest software update before making a decision on weather to get TiVo!

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35316342)

Thanks for the info, will probably wait for the latest software update before making a decision on weather to get TiVo!

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35316346)

You will have no regrets.

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35316455)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35316458)

l thought you said that you had stopped asking questions to Virgin but l suppose a leopard never changes his spots.:)

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35316153)

On series linking, I have been using 1 minute and four minutes for awhile and not had a single recording hiccup and so I'll be pleased when thats the default and I don't have to set it up for each series(try it and see for yourself). If that default does not work for you then the old way is just one extra button press away, hardly a farse. On Youtube I can't comment. I doubt upscaling would be worse, but again can't comment on that.

Regards

John

Originally Posted by chunkymonkey (Post 35300895)

I can confirm that the american style remote control with the slide out QWERTY keyboard, will launch before the end of this year.
The remotes will automatically be sent out to all TiVo customers at no cost.

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35316527)

I use those settings as well but get a “hiccup� around once a month when the padding overlap of back to back recording along with another recording means I have to decide to not watch live TV (this not being one of the channels being recorded), watch a channel being recorded (spoils the programme if still on), watch something else recorded, or leave the room/turn TV off!

Having a default padding is good IMHO for its primary purpose of providing a convenient approach to make sure you catch the whole of a planned programme when the actual schedule is not in exact alignment with the EPG schedule.

I have sympathy with those who want the actual settings for default padding to be user defined.

But the real short term issue is not eliminating 2 tuners having to be used for back to back recordings on the same channel. VM really should have done this as part of the default padding implementation to minimise the risk of clipping.

I would have gone further the removed padding across any channel for back to back recording which would use up 3 tuners but that is my view. Just getting it on the same channel would have been enough to make the chance of clipping so small to be insignificant.

A missed opportunity to get it right in my view along with user defined default padding. I hope VM will take note and “enhance� this feature in future updates.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35316561)

Virgin Media have said in the event if a recording clash with the new default, it is the padding which will be clipped.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35316561)

Virgin Media have said in the event if a recording clash with the new default, it is the padding which will be clipped.

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316812)

I seem to have the update (Cambridge). Flicking around the menus seems to be a bit crisper, although it may be a figment of my imagination, and it's not as snappy as my old Sky+ HD box. If I go to "Help & Settings" > "System Info" there's an option there for "Multi Room Streaming"...

http://t.co/5abkZR5b

As you can see, it suggests you go to the Help section for more information, but I can't find anything there, so maybe that's not written yet. I'd like to give it a go if anyone has any suggestions. Maybe I should just network the boxes and see what happens?

Anyone want me to try out anything specific, or want to see particular screen shots? Happy to oblige if so.

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316822)

When I tried it with a broadcast movie, I got a cutdown set of options - "Record this movie" and "Explore this show".

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316812)

If I go to "Help & Settings" > "System Info" there's an option there for "Multi Room Streaming"...

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316822)

I'll admit I didn't use the YouTube app frequently, but it doesn't look any different to me. None of that auto-play stuff I've seen mentioned is happening here. http://t.co/bo5SaVa6

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316822)

I'll admit I didn't use the YouTube app frequently, but it doesn't look any different to me. None of that auto-play stuff I've seen mentioned is happening here. http://t.co/bo5SaVa6

Here's the dialogue box which comes up when you hit record: http://t.co/szRBWVFF ...clicking OK on Express Series Link sends you back to the programme and doesn't require any further confirmation. When I tried it with a broadcast movie, I got a cutdown set of options - "Record this movie" and "Explore this show".

Here's the TV Guide going back into the past, with the channel names over on the right: http://t.co/VLiej7hd

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Hard to say if the SD picture is better, it certainly looks good but it always did. I haven't taken a picture of Sky channels showing in the mini preview, but I can assure you they work (watching SSN now).

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316884)

That's interesting! Well, I've definitely got the new software, and that's the YouTube app I've got with it. Maybe they've already withdrawn the new YouTube app? (I wouldn't object, given the concerns expressed about it here)

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35316869)

That doesn't seem to be the new one from what has been described. As far as I know it's supposed to resemble www.youtube.com/leanback

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35316657)

Yes. That's a miserable forum, eh?

Originally Posted by CherryHintonBlu (Post 35316812)

If I go to "Help & Settings" > "System Info" there's an option there for "Multi Room Streaming"....

Originally Posted by tycho (Post 35317041)

If there is anyone in the pilot area that has 2 or more Tivo's, could I trouble you confirm if this functionality is actually enabled and working in the new update - or have VM simply added some menu options, for later updated?

This is 1 function I'm really waiting for eagerly, and just find it a bit odd, that VM have finally released some official work on what is in the update, but dont mention this - I would have thought if it was live they would be making a big thing out of it?

Cheers

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35317066)

My father currently has 1 x Samsung V+HD and 1 x SD Samsung , he is fed up with the lack of storage on V+ and wants TIVO my question is this

How much would he pay for 2 x 500gb ?

Originally Posted by tycho (Post 35317041)

If there is anyone in the pilot area that has 2 or more Tivo's, could I trouble you confirm if this functionality is actually enabled and working in the new update - or have VM simply added some menu options, for later updated?

This is 1 function I'm really waiting for eagerly, and just find it a bit odd, that VM have finally released some official work on what is in the update, but dont mention this - I would have thought if it was live they would be making a big thing out of it?

Cheers

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35317071)

Out of interest, does anyone know how much it would cost to replace my V+ box with a 2nd TIVO (500Gb would do)? I'm on VIP50.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35317068)

£49.95

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35317073)

The cost of install only - £49.95

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For 2 x 500GB? It would be £99.90

1 TiVo at £0 activation
1 TiVo at £49.95 activation

and £49.95 installation