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spiderplant 30-03-2011 14:24

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202085)
When the majority of people are on TIVO over the next few years with 100meg then available nationwide with possibly 200 meg out , will this have any affect on the network during peak times ? Just thinking with possible YouTube streaming on TIVO possibly Lovefilm etc and potentially higher OD usage.

If that becomes a problem, more network capacity can be added. This type of bandwidth can be increased by segmenting the network into smaller and smaller groups of devices so is effectively limitless.

Big-Ted 30-03-2011 14:28

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202085)
When the majority of people are on TIVO over the next few years with 100meg then available nationwide with possibly 200 meg out , will this have any affect on the network during peak times ? Just thinking with possible YouTube streaming on TIVO possibly Lovefilm etc and potentially higher OD usage.



Shouldn't be a problem, mainly upgrading the switches at the headend with latest Cisco routers could increase available data flow by several times what it is now.

muppetman11 30-03-2011 14:45

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35201801)
Then comes what's proved to be the really hard part: letting the majority of existing customers use the bloody thing! ;)

Interesting that TechRadar & T3 are saying the same thing: It would/will be a Sky+ HD killer if/when certain issues are fixed and polished.



I think this was/is an on-going fix, according to a thread at TCF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big-Ted (Post 35202142)
Shouldn't be a problem, mainly upgrading the switches at the headend with latest Cisco routers could increase available data flow by several times what it is now.

Piece of cake then :D

denphone 30-03-2011 14:57

Re: TiVo
 
Wheres my email as l thought this would be the week we get sent our emails but then again Virgins train never arrives on time.

sniper007 30-03-2011 15:40

Re: TiVo
 
How much will Tivo cost? I take it no extra charge per month but will cost extra to get the box and upgrade to it. Is it a one off fixed fee? What about my old Samsung V+ boxes and recordings? Will they take those back and can I still have two Tivo boxes for upstairs and down?

Article states £199 + £40 install fee. That's me out if true.


Also, at the moment on my Samsung V+ box I use the scart recordable output and an RF modulator to send signal to my kids rooms. Can I still use this method with TIVO?

BenMcr 30-03-2011 16:11

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35202171)
Also, at the moment on my Samsung V+ box I use the scart recordable output and an RF modulator to send signal to my kids rooms. Can I still use this method with TIVO?

Yes

sniper007 30-03-2011 16:14

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35202208)
Yes

Thanks Ben. As for cost...is £199 true?

muppetman11 30-03-2011 16:14

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35202171)
How much will Tivo cost? I take it no extra charge per month but will cost extra to get the box and upgrade to it. Is it a one off fixed fee? What about my old Samsung V+ boxes and recordings? Will they take those back and can I still have two Tivo boxes for upstairs and down?

Article states £199 + £40 install fee. That's me out if true.


Also, at the moment on my Samsung V+ box I use the scart recordable output and an RF modulator to send signal to my kids rooms. Can I still use this method with TIVO?

It's believed to be 149 + 40 install to existing customers and £3.00 a month charge for using TIVO and you have to have XL at the start.

passingbat 30-03-2011 17:25

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202211)
It's believed to be 149 + 40 install to existing customers and £3.00 a month charge for using TIVO and you have to have XL at the start.

Pre regs who have have paid for tivo were charged 149 all in, including installation. Plus the 3 pound monthly fee.


It had better be the same for the rest of us pre regs!

sniper007 30-03-2011 17:31

Re: TiVo
 
£3 per month extra on top of wht I pay currently (i.e. V+ charge and extra set top box charge?). Can someone give me an example of what it would cost me to replace my two Samsung V+ HD boxes with Tivo boxes. i.e. I have a Sammy V+ HD box down and up and want both of these to become Tivo boxes. Would this be an extra £3 per month EACH box or just for tivo service? Something like:

£149 + £149 + £40 install + £3 per month extra?

passingbat 30-03-2011 17:45

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35202278)
£3 per month extra on top of wht I pay currently (i.e. V+ charge and extra set top box charge?). Can someone give me an example of what it would cost me to replace my two Samsung V+ HD boxes with Tivo boxes. i.e. I have a Sammy V+ HD box down and up and want both of these to become Tivo boxes. Would this be an extra £3 per month EACH box or just for tivo service? Something like:

£149 + £149 + £40 install + £3 per month extra?

Official pricing for current customers has not been released. Until they are, any pricing could be right or wrong.

I've read that the 3 pound charge is per box, but that is unconfimed.

fixerman 30-03-2011 18:14

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35202288)
Official pricing for current customers has not been released. Until they are, any pricing could be right or wrong.

I've read that the 3 pound charge is per box, but that is unconfimed.

This information is known only to DF and he has gone to ground to avoid the flack.:omg:

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 18:20

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35202300)
This information is known only to DF and he has gone to ground to avoid the flack.:omg:

http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon...ticons0422.gif

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 18:22

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35202300)
This information is known only to DF and he has gone to ground to avoid the flack.:omg:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/11.gif

davidthornton 30-03-2011 18:22

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35202288)
I've read that the 3 pound charge is per box, but that is unconfimed.

That's what I thought. However it didn't look that way on my last bill so please keep this to yourself and let's hope nobody else reads this, okay. :):dunce:

passingbat 30-03-2011 18:29

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthornton (Post 35202311)
That's what I thought. However it didn't look that way on my last bill so please keep this to yourself and let's hope nobody else reads this, okay. :):dunce:

Not a word to a soul. Not many people read this thread (look how low the post count is) so your secret's safe :D

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 18:32

Re: TiVo
 
It seems that the setting recordings from the web is back up and running:D:D:D

passingbat 30-03-2011 18:33

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202309)

You're not watching Dr Who again are you? You know the nastie things aren't real.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 18:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35202324)
Not a word to a soul. Not many people read this thread (look how low the post count is) so your secret's safe :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/24.gif

muppetman11 30-03-2011 18:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35202300)
This information is known only to DF and he has gone to ground to avoid the flack.:omg:

My question about network on previous page went unanswered by all VM staff.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 18:38

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202330)
My question about network on previous page went unanswered by all VM staff.

What was the question?

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:35 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202085)
When the majority of people are on TIVO over the next few years with 100meg then available nationwide with possibly 200 meg out , will this have any affect on the network during peak times ? Just thinking with possible YouTube streaming on TIVO possibly Lovefilm etc and potentially higher OD usage.

So long as more capacity is added to the network then it shouldn't be a problem.

Theres currently an upgrade programme to cabinets to add more bandwith to future proof the network.

(is this the question?) :)

fixerman 30-03-2011 18:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202309)


Love it! Love it!:LOL:

HDFootyMan 30-03-2011 18:54

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202332)
Theres currently an upgrade programme to cabinets to add more bandwith to future proof the network.

Is this to bring the whole network up to 750Mhz? Or are VM going beyond that, to 1Ghz?

(yes, I know, I'm nosey :erm:;))

muppetman11 30-03-2011 18:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202332)
What was the question?

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:35 ----------



So long as more capacity is added to the network then it shouldn't be a problem.

Theres currently an upgrade programme to cabinets to add more bandwith to future proof the network.

(is this the question?) :)

That's the one , I asked it mainly because a tech on here said it wouldn't help the network at all once more and more TIVOS are released on the network along with the BB upgrades.

Peter_ 30-03-2011 19:00

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202330)
My question about network on previous page went unanswered by all VM staff.

As the TiVo box has its own dedicated 10Mb broadband connection the will be no issues and if it needs upgrade over time that will not be an issue either.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 19:01

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35202350)
Is this to bring the whole network up to 750Mhz? Or are VM going beyond that, to 1Ghz?

(yes, I know, I'm nosey :erm:;))

not sure off the top of my head, as off work at the moment. :)

muppetman11 30-03-2011 19:02

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35202355)
As the TiVo box has its own dedicated 10Mb broadband connection the will be no issues and if it needs upgrade over time that will not be an issue either.

I was meaning more the effect with all them 10 meg modems out there and 100 meg modems on BB , ie contention and slow speeds at peak times.

BenMcr 30-03-2011 19:06

Re: TiVo
 
I'm assung the TiVo 10Mbit will be running on the 'old' network so wouldn't affect 100Mbit

TonyHoyle 30-03-2011 19:20

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthornton (Post 35202311)
That's what I thought. However it didn't look that way on my last bill so please keep this to yourself and let's hope nobody else reads this, okay. :):dunce:

It's £3 total on my bill too, and as I recently went through it with CS (they'd forgotten to put the multiroom discount on) they'd have noticed if it was wrong.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 19:23

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35202363)
I'm assung the TiVo 10Mbit will be running on the 'old' network so wouldn't affect 100Mbit

That's how I understand it.

passingbat 30-03-2011 19:28

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle (Post 35202378)
It's £3 total on my bill too, and as I recently went through it with CS (they'd forgotten to put the multiroom discount on) they'd have noticed if it was wrong.

That is good news.

muppetman11 30-03-2011 19:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35202363)
I'm assung the TiVo 10Mbit will be running on the 'old' network so wouldn't affect 100Mbit

Thanks for that , is it Docsis 1 for 10mb and Docsis 3 for 30mb up.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:13

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202397)
Thanks for that , is it Docsis 1 for 10mb and Docsis 3 for 30mb up.

Yeah

Doz007 30-03-2011 20:13

Re: TiVo
 
Any news on the iPad app? It would be great if they were able to release it in time for launch. :)

HDFootyMan 30-03-2011 20:23

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202356)
not sure off the top of my head, as off work at the moment. :)

W-Whatttt!!??! Disgraceful! :td::mad:;)

Seriously, enjoy your break off work :) ....with people (including me I admit :erm:) throwing toys outta our non-TiVo prams, you deserve it.

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 20:27

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35202425)
W-Whatttt!!??! Disgraceful! :td::mad:;)

Seriously, enjoy your break off work :) ....with people (including me I admit :erm:) throwing toys outta our non-TiVo prams, you deserve it.

With the rants aimed at him today I bet that he thinks he was at work:erm::D:D:D

jb66 30-03-2011 20:28

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35202397)
Thanks for that , is it Docsis 1 for 10mb and Docsis 3 for 30mb up.

The TiVo has a docsis3 modem and locks onto docsis3 even though its only on ten meg. Not sure why though

muppetman11 30-03-2011 20:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35202432)
The TiVo has a docsis3 modem and locks onto docsis3 even though its only on ten meg. Not sure why though

Right that was my thinking will this not cause issues when the masses have TIVO and more houses are on 50-100 meg possibly even 200 meg with plenty using YouTube , lovefilm possibly etc on TIVO , peak time could become a nightmare.

---------- Post added at 19:34 ---------- Previous post was at 19:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35202141)
If that becomes a problem, more network capacity can be added. This type of bandwidth can be increased by segmenting the network into smaller and smaller groups of devices so is effectively limitless.

Thanks spider plant and aplogies hadn't seen your post :D

HDFootyMan 30-03-2011 20:36

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35202432)
The TiVo has a docsis3 modem and locks onto docsis3 even though its only on ten meg. Not sure why though

Because it can go up to 20Meg:
http://virgintivo.blogspot.com/2011/...in-medias.html

Quote:

despite the TiVo box containing a 10Mb cable modem, "Virgin has the ability to increase that to 20Mbps via a software patch for heavy users, or for future services such as 3D content streaming."
I'm guessing it can go beyond that too, just a matter of VM updating a config file I guess, just like they do for the home broadband connections.

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:38

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35202431)
With the rants aimed at him today I bet that he thinks he was at work:erm::D:D:D

ha ha

Time for me to catch a plane out of here https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/03/9.gif

:D ;)

HDFootyMan 30-03-2011 20:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202447)
ha ha

Time for me to catch a plane out of here https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/03/9.gif

:D ;)

You flying down to the VM TiVo Launch Party? :D

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:45

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35202449)
You flying down to the VM TiVo Launch Party? :D

on my way..... https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/03/8.gif

:D

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 20:45

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35202449)
You flying down to the VM TiVo Launch Party? :D

He is in charge of it that is why he is not at work:p:

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:49

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35202457)
He is in charge of it that is why he is not at work:p:

:D

Doz007 30-03-2011 20:53

Re: TiVo
 
Will the iPad app be mentioned during the launch party as far as you're aware DF?

HDFootyMan 30-03-2011 20:54

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35202457)
He is in charge of it that is why he is not at work:p:

I imagine DF is putting a lot of effort in setting up the party:

Drinks: 3 Thumbs up
Food: 3 Thumbs up
Music: 3 Thumbs up
Free TiVo for every party visitor: 3 Thumbs up
Crap music: 2 Thumbs down

;)

Fitzer 30-03-2011 20:54

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:


You can switch between 3 tuners in the mini guide. :)
How do you select tuners in the mini guide I can't seem to see how :(

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:57

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzer (Post 35202464)
How do you select tuners in the mini guide I can't seem to see how :(

press INFO then scroll down to the "RRR" logo at the bottom, this will show what's on the other tuners. :)

cupcakes aka dd 30-03-2011 20:57

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202456)

Wow today really is a mindblowing display of graphical delights mixed together with a hint of

:rant:

:wtf:

:notme:

Digital Fanatic 30-03-2011 20:59

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35202467)
Wow today really is a mindblowing display of graphical delights mixed together with a hint of

:rant:

:wtf:

:notme:


A lot of ranting going on today :D

Fitzer 30-03-2011 21:15

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202466)
press INFO then scroll down to the "RRR" logo at the bottom, this will show what's on the other tuners. :)

Ta

andrewstevenson 30-03-2011 21:22

Re: TiVo
 
Can i ask a question please to all, i getting tivo v soon but i worry about i hear you can no longer record in background when watching tv like v plus is that correct, incorrect or to be amended

BenMcr 30-03-2011 21:30

Re: TiVo
 
What do you mean?

TiVo allows you to watch something else whilst recording

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 21:33

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35202487)
Can i ask a question please to all, i getting tivo v soon but i worry about i hear you can no longer record in background when watching tv like v plus is that correct, incorrect or to be amended

If you mean that you are able to record and watch the same channel then yes you can or something else?

andrewstevenson 30-03-2011 22:05

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35202505)
If you mean that you are able to record and watch the same channel then yes you can or something else?

No say for example i wanna copy a recording to dvd in v plus i can record it in the background while watching tv, but i hear with tivo if i wanna copya programme to dvd i cant use the copy to vcr option in v plus, instead if i copy to dvd using tivo i cant watch a recording or live programme, i need ot watch what i copy, is that correct

devilincarnate 30-03-2011 22:10

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35202543)
No say for example i wanna copy a recording to dvd in v plus i can record it in the background while watching tv, but i hear with tivo if i wanna copya programme to dvd i cant use the copy to vcr option in v plus, instead if i copy to dvd using tivo i cant watch a recording or live programme, i need ot watch what i copy, is that correct

It does not have that function but you will find out that you will not need it ( if you do you need to get out more ):p:

I like the third post here, not sure if true but have to say if it is well done VM :D:D

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blo...17078613475900

BenMcr 30-03-2011 22:12

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35202543)
No say for example i wanna copy a recording to dvd in v plus i can record it in the background while watching tv, but i hear with tivo if i wanna copya programme to dvd i cant use the copy to vcr option in v plus, instead if i copy to dvd using tivo i cant watch a recording or live programme, i need ot watch what i copy, is that correct

Yes. There isn't a 'Copy to DVD' function, you have to watch what you are archiving

However with a 1TB box there is less of a need to do it

AndyCambs 30-03-2011 22:19

Re: TiVo
 
I had an email saying I would be contacted about Tivo by 27th March - but not heard anything yet...

fixerman 30-03-2011 22:39

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCambs (Post 35202563)
I had an email saying I would be contacted about Tivo by 27th March - but not heard anything yet...

Ask DF why not!:knock:

andrewstevenson 30-03-2011 22:42

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35202555)
Yes. There isn't a 'Copy to DVD' function, you have to watch what you are archiving

However with a 1TB box there is less of a need to do it

Iss that standard with all tivo or something virgin can fix with software patch and can you tell it only one show to copy or to copy a group of shows live

Lew 30-03-2011 22:49

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35202575)
Iss that standard with all tivo or something virgin can fix with software patch and can you tell it only one show to copy or to copy a group of shows live

The TiVo Premiere in the States has the option to transfer recordings to a computer (as long as they're not tagged as protected) where the can be burned to DVD/Blu-ray. No idea whether VM plan to add this functionality to their TiVo though.

howardmicks 30-03-2011 23:02

Re: TiVo
 
anyone know if there is a planned software update again tomorrow ?

Doz007 30-03-2011 23:05

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35202589)
anyone know if there is a planned software update again tomorrow ?

What makes you aske that, is something strange happening to your TiVo?

spiderplant 30-03-2011 23:25

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35202589)
anyone know if there is a planned software update again tomorrow ?

No there isn't. Might be a few weeks before the next one.

howardmicks 31-03-2011 00:14

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35202591)
What makes you aske that, is something strange happening to your TiVo?

still a few little bugs,Biggest pain is the suggested recorded programs seems to record the sd version (really annoying)

---------- Post added at 23:14 ---------- Previous post was at 23:13 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35202607)
No there isn't. Might be a few weeks before the next one.

cheers matey,Thought they might had sorted a few more niggles before the official launch

passingbat 31-03-2011 00:57

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35202607)
No there isn't. Might be a few weeks before the next one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35202629)
cheers matey,Thought they might had sorted a few more niggles before the official launch

Maybe they will and the official launch will be put back a few weeks? :D

We need this VM email so that we know what's going on.

Digital Fanatic 31-03-2011 01:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35202629)
still a few little bugs,Biggest pain is the suggested recorded programs seems to record the sd version (really annoying)

---------- Post added at 23:14 ---------- Previous post was at 23:13 ----------



cheers matey,Thought they might had sorted a few more niggles before the official launch

That's not a bug though :) a wish to change, but not a bug.

denphone 31-03-2011 06:47

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202468)
A lot of ranting going on today :D

I don,t rant, l articulate and construct a sentence.
Hope you are enjoying your days off.

heavyside 31-03-2011 09:30

Re: TiVo
 
I was pleased to read that the full BBC iPlayer app is now available via TiVo with the entire range of programmes that are available on the web version. It was always annoying to see something available online only to find that is was unavailable on the VM version of iPlayer. So, better late than never and well done Virgin. Does anyone know if there are plans for a full 4OD app along the same lines?

Perfect Choice 31-03-2011 09:43

Re: TiVo
 
Where is this email, cannot believe VM left it right to the last day of March, my earlier email clearly stated late March.

Hugh 31-03-2011 09:47

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35202659)
I don,t rant, l articulate and construct a sentence.
Hope you are enjoying your days off.

However, it is fair to say your articulated and constructed sentences do seem to follow a theme :D

Six out of your last ten posts.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35202658)
And man will get to mars before Virgin do anything or launch any new channels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35202199)
We wait in hope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35202163)
Wheres my email as l thought this would be the week we get sent our emails but then again Virgins train never arrives on time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35202162)
Wow 2 channels the vast amount of tv viewers have no interest in, come on Virgin pull your socks up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35201986)
The only thing coming soon is our price rise, as far as l am concerned Virgins lack of progress in the last 6 to 9 months has been nothing short of shocking, all we have had is several price rises and the Tivo fiasco which is still going on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35201263)
Well nothing surprises me with this news its typical Virgin, this has been utter shambolicness from start to finish with Tivo,l am not going to have a go at DF because its not his fault.

;)

clinteastman 31-03-2011 09:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35202675)
Where is this email, cannot believe VM left it right to the last day of March, my earlier email clearly stated late March.

To be fair it is still late March. ;)

Now if they don't get it out today then that's a fail in my book.

muppetman11 31-03-2011 09:58

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35202677)
However, it is fair to say your articulated and constructed sentences do seem to follow a theme :D

Six out of your last ten posts.....







;)

And he says he's happy with the service , god help him if he ever gets disgruntled LOL :D

jinglemansweep 31-03-2011 10:04

Re: TiVo
 
The email will probably just say something like:

"Thanks for your interest in our revolutionary new Tivo system. We are currently putting together the final touches and will be in touch soon, when you can order it online."

Basically, pre-register customers will get access to the online order the same day as general release.

Rather annoying, but to be expected really. We interpreted pre-registration as an early access programme, but in reality, it was just a bit of cleverly designed market research.

However, we'll wait and see!

denphone 31-03-2011 10:11

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35202677)
However, it is fair to say your articulated and constructed sentences do seem to follow a theme :D

Six out of your last ten posts.....







;)

Oh l love your dulcet tones and ramblings Hugh.

clinteastman 31-03-2011 10:14

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Originally Posted by jinglemansweep (Post 35202689)
The email will probably just say something like:

"Thanks for your interest in our revolutionary new Tivo system. We are currently putting together the final touches and will be in touch soon, when you can order it online."

Basically, pre-register customers will get access to the online order the same day as general release.

Rather annoying, but to be expected really. We interpreted pre-registration as an early access programme, but in reality, it was just a bit of cleverly designed market research.

However, we'll wait and see!

I think you spot on with the content of the email but we will get it before general release, VM couldn't cope with releasing it all at once, They need to stagger it.

Perfect Choice 31-03-2011 10:20

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Yes getting 50,000 orders in 1 day may take some time to fullfill! But the ability to place an order and know you are in the delivery pipeline will be a step forward. I think I read another post saying the latest VM magazine states the 4th April for general launch for any customer to order Tivo, so surely they need to give pre registered customers first access to place orders unless we are given some form of order code with the email we should receive today.

clinteastman 31-03-2011 10:39

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35202695)
Yes getting 50,000 orders in 1 day may take some time to fullfill! But the ability to place an order and know you are in the delivery pipeline will be a step forward. I think I read another post saying the latest VM magazine states the 4th April for general launch for any customer to order Tivo, so surely they need to give pre registered customers first access to place orders unless we are given some form of order code with the email we should receive today.

What I think will happen is we get a "we haven't forgotten you" email today followed by the "order now" email on 4th April and then the rest of VM's current customers will get the same email a week or two later. Like DF said it's been pushed back a few days.

Gunslinger 31-03-2011 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35202695)
Yes getting 50,000 orders in 1 day may take some time to fullfill! But the ability to place an order and know you are in the delivery pipeline will be a step forward. I think I read another post saying the latest VM magazine states the 4th April for general launch for any customer to order Tivo, so surely they need to give pre registered customers first access to place orders unless we are given some form of order code with the email we should receive today.

Yes but what VM actually said in February was:

"We’ll be in touch around the end of March to let you know how you can get the TiVo service before it goes on general sale. For now, you can sit back, relax and wait for all the good stuff to come to you."

IF the general launch is REALLY 4th April (was this confirmed by VM, or just another rumour?), then there must presumably be some way of giving preference within the normal ordering process. It would be grossly unfair to expect 50,000 people to put in their orders in just the 2 or 3 days between now and the 4th, even if VM's systems could cope - what if you are on holiday, system down, don't have access to email, etc etc?

Personally I think that the whole thing has slipped, and the email if we get one will just be another 'holding' exercise.

denphone 31-03-2011 11:08

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 35202708)
Yes but what VM actually said in February was:

"We’ll be in touch around the end of March to let you know how you can get the TiVo service before it goes on general sale. For now, you can sit back, relax and wait for all the good stuff to come to you."

IF the general launch is REALLY 4th April (was this confirmed by VM, or just another rumour?), then there must presumably be some way of giving preference within the normal ordering process. It would be grossly unfair to expect 50,000 people to put in their orders in just the 2 or 3 days between now and the 4th, even if VM's systems could cope - what if you are on holiday, system down, don't have access to email, etc etc?

Personally I think that the whole thing has slipped, and the email if we get one will just be another 'holding' exercise.

Well thats typical Virgin for you, full of vague dates and promises.

fixerman 31-03-2011 11:12

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I would love to be a fly on the wall at a meeting between the VM marketing people and the VM engineers.

albertsteptoe 31-03-2011 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35202555)
Yes. There isn't a 'Copy to DVD' function, you have to watch what you are archiving

However with a 1TB box there is less of a need to do it

Hello Ben, just seen your reply to Andrews question, are you 100% sure that its not possible to record onto a DVD like you can from a V+, because if thats right i wont bother with Tivo as i will never be able to copy to DVD, so Tivo will be a waste of time for me.:(

howardmicks 31-03-2011 11:17

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35202651)
That's not a bug though :) a wish to change, but not a bug.

Understand what your saying matey,But there should be a option to tick for it to record suggested programs in hd if available.Ive turned suggestions of because all i seem to do is delete,That is annoying because its part of what tivo is about and would really like to use it.So to me its a bug that really should be sorted,I really hope they do something about it
I record 98 % hd programmes on my box,Would have thought tivo would notice this in the same way it notices what programs i like and record hd versions

BenMcr 31-03-2011 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35202724)
Hello Ben, just seen your reply to Andrews question, are you 100% sure that its not possible to record onto a DVD like you can from a V+, because if thats right i wont bother with Tivo as i will never be able to copy to DVD, so Tivo will be a waste of time for me.:(

I'm 100% sure.

spiderplant 31-03-2011 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35202724)
Hello Ben, just seen your reply to Andrews question, are you 100% sure that its not possible to record onto a DVD like you can from a V+, because if thats right i wont bother with Tivo as i will never be able to copy to DVD, so Tivo will be a waste of time for me.:(

You can still copy to DVD. You just can't watch something else at the same time.

Perfect Choice 31-03-2011 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35202724)
Hello Ben, just seen your reply to Andrews question, are you 100% sure that its not possible to record onto a DVD like you can from a V+, because if thats right i wont bother with Tivo as i will never be able to copy to DVD, so Tivo will be a waste of time for me.:(

You can copy to DVD in so far you have to set the previous recording running which will send the output to the SCART and so to your DVD recorder. However that means you are effectively watching the programme and cannot watch anything else, as the Tivo is just feeding down the SCART what is currently being looked at.

So not the same as the V+ where you can set-up a copy to SCART while watching something else.

My plan with Tivo is to set up a copy to DVD running as I have to with Tivo when we are out of the house since an infrequent need for me.

Some posters have said that they see little need for this feature, but in our house, we have 3 other TVs each with integrated DVDs, so it is sometimes useful (especially for the kids) to copy something onto DVD so they can watch it in their own rooms while the adults can watch something else on the main TV with the Tivo.

Simple practicality and while there is talk of future activation of USA features to provide multi room viewing, it is not today and even when in place, are we just talking of transmitting what is currently being shown on the Tivo as against allowing another room to see a different recording stored on the Tivo, the latter would remove the DVD copy subject to knowing what you need in the other room. Do you have to subscribe to another box say, in which case I will be happy to keep going with the “low technology” DVD copy route as an infrequent requirement in my house.

clinteastman 31-03-2011 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35202726)
Understand what your saying matey,But there should be a option to tick for it to record suggested programs in hd if available.Ive turned suggestions of because all i seem to do is delete,That is annoying because its part of what tivo is about and would really like to use it.So to me its a bug that really should be sorted,I really hope they do something about it
I record 98 % hd programmes on my box,Would have thought tivo would notice this in the same way it notices what programs i like and record hd versions

I think what he's saying is it a feature to add rather than a bug, a bug would be it's got the feature but doesn't work.

I'm with you though, would be at the top of my list. I'm sure it must be on the development plan?

carbon60 31-03-2011 11:44

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35202737)
So not the same as the V+ where you can set-up a copy to SCART while watching something else.

I believe only the SA V+ can do this. The Samsung V+ sends the same output to both SCARTs, I seem to remember this is a hardware limitation.

Perfect Choice 31-03-2011 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35202742)
I think what he's saying is it a feature to add rather than a bug, a bug would be it's got the feature but doesn't work.

I'm with you though, would be at the top of my list. I'm sure it must be on the development plan?

To be strict I regard this as a feature shortfall not a new feature requirement. It seems crazy that you cannot choose to have your suggestions recorded in HD (if available) to me, this is the whole point of getting Tivo with its larger HDD IMHO, so plenty of capacity for HD recordings, which is making the V+ almost obsolete as it is so easy to run out of capacity.

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Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35202743)
I believe only the SA V+ can do this. The Samsung V+ sends the same output to both SCARTs, I seem to remember this is a hardware limitation.

Didn't realise that, I have a SA V+, thanks.

BenMcr 31-03-2011 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35202743)
I believe only the SA V+ can do this. The Samsung V+ sends the same output to both SCARTs, I seem to remember this is a hardware limitation.

Only when on SD

The Samsung V+ archives the same as the SA V+ if are on HDMI

tweetiepooh 31-03-2011 12:02

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We are in the opposite boat, we don't have a HD TV so why waste space recording that version in preference to SD. What's more annoying is recording the AD version or version with signing.

A select version preference would be a good feature with options like

SD
HD
AD

Maybe you could weight them so that you didn't miss a programme because clashes meant you preferred format was unavailable.

HDFootyMan 31-03-2011 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35202742)
I think what he's saying is it a feature to add rather than a bug, a bug would be it's got the feature but doesn't work.

I'm with you though, would be at the top of my list. I'm sure it must be on the development plan?

I'm sure TiVO Premiere users have been asking for this for ages.

This is what worries me, that Premiere users have been asking for stuff like HD Suggestions; all UI screens to be in HD etc for eons and yet their still waiting - so what hope do we have of seeing this sort of additional functionality being added?

clinteastman 31-03-2011 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35202768)
I'm sure TiVO Premiere users have been asking for this for ages.

This is what worries me, that Premiere users have been asking for stuff like HD Suggestions; all UI screens to be in HD etc for eons and yet their still waiting - so what hope do we have of seeing this sort of additional functionality being added?

Guess I'm over optimistic!

Not having a TiVo ( I'm looking at you VM) I'm not sure we have the ability to do this:

http://gdgt.com/discuss/tivo-suggest...t-in-hd-i-4ht/

albertsteptoe 31-03-2011 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35202735)
You can still copy to DVD. You just can't watch something else at the same time.

Thanks for that guys, so the Tivo is like my Sky HD box, when it comes to copying,cant watch anything else, that sucks a little but as long as i can copy will have to paly on my Xbox while im waiting for copying to finish. Thanks again to all for quick peply.:)

johnasimmons 31-03-2011 12:41

Has anyone had the long awaited email from VM about TiVo today?

warrenb 31-03-2011 12:45

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Nope

Stephen 31-03-2011 12:46

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The last email only mentioned around the end of March that could still be interpreted as up till the first few days in April.

warrenb 31-03-2011 12:48

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I just can't see how an email that said end of March, can be interpreted as beginning of April.

clinteastman 31-03-2011 12:50

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Originally Posted by warrenb (Post 35202791)
I just can't see how an email that said end of March, can be interpreted as beginning of April.

That's because they didn't actually say "by the end of March".

Quote:

Dear Chris,

The countdown is on!

A little while ago, you let us know you were interested in our new TV service, Virgin Media TV powered by TiVo®. We’re delighted you’re as excited about the new service as we are! We’re looking forward to bringing it to you as soon as we can. In fact, that’s why we’re getting in touch.

Here's the latest...

The new TiVo service will be available to the general public in the next few months. But you won’t have to wait that long to get your hands on it.

At Virgin Media, our customers come first. That’s why we’d like to offer you the chance to order your TiVo service before it goes on sale to the rest of the Great British public which we expect to be in April. What’s more, we’ll make sure you’re first in the queue to have your service installed, with priority installation, just for Virgin Media customers.

If you’re interested, you don’t need to do a thing. We’ll be in touch around the end of March to let you know how you can get the TiVo service before it goes on general sale. For now, you can sit back, relax and wait for all the good stuff to come to you.


Yours sincerely,

The Virgin Media team

Bofrok 31-03-2011 12:50

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Might not be today?

They said "We’ll be in touch around the end of March" which could mean before or after the end of March.


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