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OLD BOY 07-09-2020 13:22

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36048899)
My biggest gripe is finding content. Much of the included content is mixed up with the pay-for content and it is all poorly categorized.

But if you search 'free TV shows' or 'free films' only the Prime stuff is displayed. Personally, I don't see the problem. Surely you can't expect them to hide the charged for stuff unless you specifically request it? They don't want to hide the paid for additions, because clearly they take an additional cut for this material.

Other sites do the same (eg StarzPlay, Apple+, etc).

Legendkiller2k 07-09-2020 13:55

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36048899)
My biggest gripe is finding content. Much of the included content is mixed up with the pay-for content and it is all poorly categorized.

They've recently added a new tab now "free for me" that you can select which hides all the pay stuff.

Chris 07-09-2020 13:58

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36048920)
But if you search 'free TV shows' or 'free films' only the Prime stuff is displayed. Personally, I don't see the problem. Surely you can't expect them to hide the charged for stuff unless you specifically request it? They don't want to hide the paid for additions, because clearly they take an additional cut for this material.

Other sites do the same (eg StarzPlay, Apple+, etc).

And their main rival and market leader - Netflix - does not. Netflix’s strategy is all you can eat for one simple payment (as is Disney+, for the most part - it remains to be seen how often they’ll repeat the premier access experiment with Mulan). Trying to blend inclusive and paid content in one interface isn’t inevitable, or necessary, and it certainly isn’t an optimal customer experience.

Prime and Apple are trying to run video rental libraries as well as streaming TV channels. It is a deliberate strategic decision to blend the interface so both services exist within each other, and users looking for content they have paid to access are automatically upsold content they haven’t.

heavyside 07-09-2020 14:06

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36048927)
They've recently added a new tab now "free for me" that you can select which hides all the pay stuff.

I didn't know that. It must be a recent addition. I will take a look this evening. It still doesn't answer my gripe about the lack of useful categorization. Netflix implements this well making similar programmes to ones I have enjoyed easier to find. So does More4 although the complete lack of HD content on the V6 app makes this unattractive.

cupcakes aka dd 07-09-2020 14:13

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
It annoys me how Blu-rays are being filtered out of the equation as well. Options DVD, streaming or expensive 4K. Buying digital is really investing in thin air. Amazon have already erased one of my digital purchases and the hoops I had to jump through to prove I couldn’t view my purchased material.

OLD BOY 07-09-2020 15:48

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36048928)
And their main rival and market leader - Netflix - does not. Netflix’s strategy is all you can eat for one simple payment (as is Disney+, for the most part - it remains to be seen how often they’ll repeat the premier access experiment with Mulan). Trying to blend inclusive and paid content in one interface isn’t inevitable, or necessary, and it certainly isn’t an optimal customer experience.

Prime and Apple are trying to run video rental libraries as well as streaming TV channels. It is a deliberate strategic decision to blend the interface so both services exist within each other, and users looking for content they have paid to access are automatically upsold content they haven’t.

You can look at it that way if you like. Or you could look at it another way - Amazon can provide that content you are looking for whether or not they have the rights to it. Personally, I find that useful.

Netflix show only their own stuff and the additional content they have the rights to. So if they don't have what you are looking for, it's tough.

You pays your money and you takes your choice, as they say.

Amazon is Prime and GooglePlay all in one.

Legendkiller2k 07-09-2020 17:45

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 36048933)
It annoys me how Blu-rays are being filtered out of the equation as well. Options DVD, streaming or expensive 4K. Buying digital is really investing in thin air. Amazon have already erased one of my digital purchases and the hoops I had to jump through to prove I couldn’t view my purchased material.

Ratuken did exact same to me deleted a movie i had purchased digitally.

buckeye 07-09-2020 19:02

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Now that Amazon Prime shows live sport does anyone know if a tv license is required to use it (even if one doesn't use the sport section)?

Legendkiller2k 07-09-2020 19:33

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36048965)
Now that Amazon Prime shows live sport does anyone know if a tv license is required to use it (even if one doesn't use the sport section)?

No same with nowtv, skygo, virgingo if you are not watching anything live or recording live tv or watching/downloading iplayer content no tvl is needed.

OLD BOY 07-09-2020 19:35

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36048971)
No same with nowtv, skygo, virgingo if you are not watching anything live or recording live tv or watching/downloading iplayer content no tvl is needed.

H'mm...if people did this in great numbers, the Beeb might start crying out for a subscription!!

SnoopZ 07-09-2020 20:00

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36048930)
I didn't know that. It must be a recent addition. I will take a look this evening. It still doesn't answer my gripe about the lack of useful categorization. Netflix implements this well making similar programmes to ones I have enjoyed easier to find. So does More4 although the complete lack of HD content on the V6 app makes this unattractive.

You missed mine and Chris's post on this yesterday, it's probably only on devices like Firestick. etc

Chris 07-09-2020 23:42

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Several posts moved to the licence fee thread here: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?p=36048988

heavyside 08-09-2020 07:40

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36048978)
You missed mine and Chris's post on this yesterday, it's probably only on devices like Firestick. etc

You are right. I looked yesterday evening and it's not available on the V6 app.

buckeye 08-09-2020 19:21

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
BT Sport Ultimate 4K now available on more products, including Amazon Fire TV

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/tech...?ocid=msedgntp

I've tried it on my 4K Firestick and its offering very good 1080P live streams,
but until they are showing something in UHD I cannot comment on the availability of UHD and also Dolby Atmos sound

ozsat 09-09-2020 04:07

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Rugby last night was in UHD and HDR and worked fine here for video on my 4K Firestick - there was an audio issue which was also present on other devices.

Dolby Atmos is NOT carried on the streaming version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36049146)
BT Sport Ultimate 4K now available on more products, including Amazon Fire TV

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/tech...?ocid=msedgntp

I've tried it on my 4K Firestick and its offering very good 1080P live streams,
but until they are showing something in UHD I cannot comment on the availability of UHD and also Dolby Atmos sound



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