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Isnt that pretty much how any virus works, and survives ?

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LOL, Classic JFM.

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Yes, but I meant more so than other viruses which aren't as transmissible, and even more so with other variants of covid which are in the same category.


I read before that people who are infected with Delta seem to replicate so much virus early on that the immune system can't get a response quickly enough (though it does eventually which is why you usually get the initial replication and some symptoms but not more in vaccinated people) and that they shed so much virus it infects others more. Given that they don't think it takes much to infect someone then they will be able to spread that more easily to others and of course people who have no immunity will get ill easier.


Probably a reason why it's spreading through kids more than usual and they're actually getting ill, if they have more virus in them at the time, then there will be more for the immune system to respond to.


I suppose win for a virus is one which spreads easily between hosts whilst not killing them or debilitating them to the extent they stop what they're doing.

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Viral load, doesn't seem unreasonable to assume anything that cuts the load down, like a mask is probably a good thing!

Only problem with that is for this virus to mutate into that it actually has to evolve into an entirely new virus, which it may well do incidentally but I wouldn't bank on it

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The better thing would not be to rely on whatever protection (which is nowhere near watertight) a mask offers.


Distancing - which means fewer people would get near whatever viral load someone is shedding - is effective.


As is testing and isolating if you have symptoms, and if you're in an environment where there's risk, doing lateral flow tests if you don't.


Much better people who have covid stay at home rather than relying on a mask to protect others. Unless it's a N85 or similar which actually do work, most people don't use them properly anyway, which makes them worse.


I'm still waiting for the person to explain the protection offered by someone walking into a pub, putting a mask on as they come off the street, walking to a table and sitting down with everyone else as it's table service, then taking the mask off, sitting in the pub chatting/watching the football/singing along to the music for a couple of hours whilst enjoying a few drinks and possibly some food, is actually a thing which works. Because to me it looks like the activities which are likely to generate aerosol are the seated ones cheering or singing or at the very least talking where the 30 seconds walking to your table is unlikely to infect anyone more.


Of course, if we all stayed at home all day every day and never went shopping, to work, or to anything else, it'd stop the viral load totally, but that's not workable.

Re: Coronavirus
 

What evidence? Our scientists disagree with you.

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Surely, because teenagers were rarely ill with it, and so there was no point. As I said earlier, it’s a balance of benefits isn’t it? Vaccinations also cause harm.

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MPs told to mask up in Parliament.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59132968

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More pointless panic. As a human race, we are all becoming like ducklings, following faithfully the mother of every panic fad that emerges.

How utterly depressing this is. When will people get back to thinking for themselves?

If they were really serious about preventing infection in the House of Commons, they’d take the roof off. :rofl:

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Or work from home, as many office staff now do.

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It's not all or nothing - it's about graduated responses.

As has been proven, wearing a mask, as well as other options, reduces the chance of infecting others - why wouldn't people want to reduce the chance of infecting others?

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Yeah, yeah! Vaccinations….

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No HazMat suits for life, it's the only way.

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Another massive fall, under 30k positive tests recorded in England today. Schools will be back now though.

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Got my booster and flu jab last night, so far no ill effects.

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Just got a text reminder to book a flu jab at the local surgery.

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Because its just pointless ?
Its a waste of time trying to avoid the inevitable.
Covid is not going to suddenly vanish, just like other common viruses, you're going to get it eventually.

Did they wear masks before Mar 2020, just in case they passed on the Flu, or Measles, or anything else at all ?

Its just turned into mindless paranoia now.
If they are fully vaccinated (as MPs should be) then they have no need to worry about getting infected.