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Hugh 29-03-2018 12:50
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/u...C435CE&gwt=pay
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Justice Dept. Will Be Investigated Over Surveillance of Trump Campaign OfficialWASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s inspector general, facing increasing political pressure from Republicans in Congress and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, said on Wednesday that his office would investigate the surveillance of a former Trump campaign official.

The announcement came amid a stream of attacks in recent months from the White House and Republican lawmakers seeking to undermine the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the presidential election.

The inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, said he would examine whether law enforcement officials complied with the law and departmental policies in seeking permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap the former campaign adviser, Carter Page. Law enforcement officials had long had concerns that Mr. Page, a former investment banker based in Moscow, was acting as a Russian agent.

Republicans have seized on details about the court-ordered surveillance of Mr. Page as evidence that the Justice Department abused its authority in the Russia investigation. Mr. Horowitz did not name Mr. Page in his announcement.

Mr. Horowitz said he would also review what the Justice Department and the F.B.I. knew at the time about a former British spy and longtime F.B.I. source, Christopher Steele, who provided information about Mr. Page that was included in the surveillance application.
This can only be a good thing - if wrongdoing happened, it can be exposed and those who did it prosecuted/disciplined; if not, it should mean this isn't relevant anymore.

Mick 29-03-2018 13:27
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Oh it’s very relevant. Further text messages from the disgraced FBI Agents. (Makes you wonder what these clowns did all day, texting each other), further texts highlight the real possibility, the Obama White House, FBI, CIA (Under Brennan) were in full collusion with each other to bring down Trump in the event of a Trump Presidency.

The FISA abuses and the heavy bias with the agents wanting a Crooked Hillary Presidency, clearing her email investigation, when there was very clear breaches of the law on classified emails being found etc etc....

A second special prosecutor is needed. The OIG does not have prosecutorial powers and can not force people to testify. He has yet to release his extensive report on Crooked Hillary’s email Investigation and other potential conduct with the DoJ during the Obama Administration.

Hugh 29-03-2018 15:59
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I would have thought it more appropriate that the OIG of the Justice Department does what their job is - impartial oversight and investigation of the previous investigations; that's literally its job, as it is a nonpartisan oversight branch charged with detecting and deterring misconduct within the Department of Justice. The FBI and its director answer to the DOJ and its head, the attorney general.

No one, on either side, can then claim bias over the outcomes.

If Strzok was such a big Clinton fan, and so opposed to President Biff, why did he draft the letter about reopening Clinton’s email server investigation, but also supported reopening the investigation just before the election?

And it seems to get overlooked that there were texts that criticized Clinton, Clinton’s team, the Obama administration, Congress and other Democrats.

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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I have stated my concerns with Amazon long before the Election. Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!
12.57PM - 29 Mar 2018
Amazon pays sales taxes in all the US States and DC, except the five that don't have sales tax.

Everyone uses the US Postal Service as their Delivery Boy - that is the main reason for their existence, and Amazon, just like everyone else, pays for that service. Package delivery is one of the USPS growth areas, helping keep it in business.

Dude111 30-03-2018 22:06
Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech
 
Even Fox couldnt stay with that nonsense :D

Quote:
It started just after 2 p.m, but within 30 minutes of Trump taking the stage CNN and MSNBC cut away to discussions with analysts and to report other news. Fox News remained on the speech for about ten minutes longer, according to social media reports, before cutting away also.
Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech | TheHill

Some lowlights

Quote:
He complained about Hillary Clinton and the 2016 election, which concluded over 508 days ago.

He said he didn’t understand the concept of community college, while also alleging, “Nobody ever heard of the word trillion until ten years ago.”

Trump even blamed President Barack Obama for judicial vacancies actually created by his legislative ally, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

At one point, he even spoke at length about the ratings for the revival of comedian Roseanne Barr’s TV show.

The connection to “infrastructure” was non-existent.
http://shareblue.com/cable-news-trump-speech-fox-news

1andrew1 31-03-2018 09:42
Re: Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942207)
That sounds like the usual Trump speech, trying to blame everyone but himself. I do hope that the US invests more in its infrastructure but the signs aren't good.

More worrying in that article was the corruption it highlighted in the Trump regime, with lobbying rising to a seven-year high. No so much draining the swamp but feeding the crocodiles in it! https://shareblue.com/lobbying-incre...dc-corruption/

Dude111 31-03-2018 19:47
Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!

Arthurgray50@blu 31-03-2018 21:38
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I was under the impression that if DT hotels are making money. Then he is has a 'conflict of Interest' as being President.

I believe he stated that he would pass over ALL his business interest to his family ?

Mick 01-04-2018 01:55
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942240)
Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!
I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:

papa smurf 01-04-2018 10:41
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)
I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:


1Exactly1 ;)

passingbat 01-04-2018 10:42
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)
I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:

Brilliantly summarised again Mick.

Damien 02-04-2018 08:44
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.
Just to clarify here they have been multiple 'deals' that eventually fell though with N.Korea.

1andrew1 02-04-2018 09:55
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942240)
Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!
Exactly. Crooked Hillary not jailed. Mexicans not agreed to pay for the wall and no sign of it being funded by the US. Sackings of key staff and advisers every couple of weeks like it's a long-running series of The Apprentice. NRA still omni-powerful despite Trump saying he would take them on. Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation hangs over Trump with the latest being that Erik Prince, a close campaign adviser to Donald Trump, met Kirill Dmitriev a Russian financier with direct ties to Vladimir Putin's family in the weeks leading up to Mr Trump's inauguration.

I think it's fair to say that the economy has continued its upward trajectory when Trump took over but many other areas have been somewhat lacklustre. I think the Trump regime is now learning from some of its mistakes. Certainly, his recent talk at the Gridiron Club dinner was largely a triumph. Korea and trade negotiations are big unknowns which he can build a legacy on if either comes off.

OLD BOY 02-04-2018 11:34
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35942332)
Just to clarify here they have been multiple 'deals' that eventually fell though with N.Korea.
That is very true, but maybe this time...

I think the American Government should take care not to take North Korea at its word before it gives anything significant away. Let's see the nuclear plants being decommissioned before Kim gets anything to shout about.

passingbat 02-04-2018 14:06
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35942345)

I think the American Government should take care not to take North Korea at its word before it gives anything significant away. Let's see the nuclear plants being decommissioned before Kim gets anything to shout about.
Trump has said that is the plan.

Mick 02-04-2018 15:17
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
When Kim was in China last week, he was suppose to have been read the riot act by the China President, "Make this work, or else."

It is in China's best interest to not have a failed State, right on it's Southern Border, a State that could be occupied by either South Korea or the U.S, if ever NK decided to not play ball and start a deadly war that it would lose and be utterly annihilated.

BREAKING: Associated Press is running with a report that the Kremlin has stated that Trump invited Putin to the White House, no date has been set.

Should turn some heads in DC as well as heads here in UK, as it should. it is misguided IMO. I understand the need for diplomacy. But you don't throw each others diplomats out of the Country, shut down Consulates and then next day, send an invite for chit chat at tea time. (See, I do criticise Trump when he does things I totally do not agree with).

https://apnews.com/b0229c16ae2148b1be5c8e71bb9f2427


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