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ocav 03-12-2013 09:04

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Originally Posted by gemma307 (Post 35651805)
Media Boy,
Does this mean that BBC will be broadcasting local news (ie Midlands today) HD?

No. Proposals for that will be sent to the BBC Trust in January.

JustaBloke 03-12-2013 10:32

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35651777)
The channels will come when they come as far as i'm aware only the bbchd ones are launching this month no others will launch until 2014. Ofcourse that could all still change your guess is as good as mine so stop pah pahing posts what people post , some of us do actually relay information we get from sources. Not our fault if the info was wrong is it?

I don't think anyone blames posters when their information is wrong. I think that in the case of the SA rumours it was the absolute certainty of two posters in particular (we all know who they are) who absolutely would not entertain any doubts but flatly refused, over and over again to provide any provenance to their claims.

I seem to remember one responding to a simple request of something along the lines of 'why do you think that?' with the retort: 'I'm not going down that path...' as if requesting some kind of validation was in some way weird or abnormal. :rolleyes::D

nn012 03-12-2013 11:25

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All this talk about 1 channel that doesn't do well with ratings! Anyone with a Samsung smart TV can use Unblock-us to access HBO Nordic. All HBO content including movies and other content from differnt studios in HD quality, advert free and only about £8 a month. I tried it last month but have decided to stick with Netflix for now. When using HBO Nordic it was apparent Sky Atlantic with its crap filler content is so overrated. If anyone's interested Currys have a Samsung smart TV on offer at £199, down from £350. Only 27" though but it does do 1080p.

Chad 03-12-2013 11:50

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Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35651832)
All this talk about 1 channel that doesn't do well with ratings! Sky Atlantic with its crap filler content is so overrated.

I tend to agree. SKY Atlantic only draws an average audience of about 600,000 per day which is 5.7% of SKY's TV customer base. If those viewing stats transferred over to Virgins TV customer base the channel would only draw between 200,000 to 250,000 viewers. Not worth Virgin pursuing unless they can get it for a knock down price, which we know SKY won't do.

Dave42 03-12-2013 12:06

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651843)
I tend to agree. SKY Atlantic only draws an average audience of about 600,000 per day which is 5.7% of SKY's TV customer base. If those viewing stats transferred over to Virgins TV customer base the channel would only draw between 200,000 to 250,000 viewers. Not worth Virgin pursuing unless they can get it for a knock down price, which we know SKY won't do.

exactly VM wont pay over top and sky wont lower price it not coming people need to realise that

JustaBloke 03-12-2013 12:18

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651843)
I tend to agree. SKY Atlantic only draws an average audience of about 600,000 per day which is 5.7% of SKY's TV customer base. If those viewing stats transferred over to Virgins TV customer base the channel would only draw between 200,000 to 250,000 viewers. Not worth Virgin pursuing unless they can get it for a knock down price, which we know SKY won't do.

Chad, I'm not bigging up SA here. I've never seen the channel, but I've seen a lot of its content (don't ask). But to me 5.7% of a platforms customer base in today's multi-channel environment seems very good. Are you able to provide similar figures for say, Sky 1 so we can compare?

muppetman11 03-12-2013 12:25

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651843)
I tend to agree. SKY Atlantic only draws an average audience of about 600,000 per day which is 5.7% of SKY's TV customer base. If those viewing stats transferred over to Virgins TV customer base the channel would only draw between 200,000 to 250,000 viewers. Not worth Virgin pursuing unless they can get it for a knock down price, which we know SKY won't do.

I'm shocked anyone expects high viewing figures its night time schedule with the likes of Boardwalk Empire , Banshee , Game of thrones , Ray Donovan etc are hardly family friendly shows and that's without factoring in the channels only on Sky and Now TV.

Dave42 03-12-2013 12:34

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35651852)
I'm shocked anyone expects high viewing figures its night time schedule with the likes of Boardwalk Empire , Banshee , Game of thrones , Ray Donovan etc are hardly family friendly shows and that's without factoring in the channels only on Sky and Now TV.

and that way it will stay MM

Chad 03-12-2013 12:39

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35651851)
Chad, I'm not bigging up SA here. I've never seen the channel, but I've seen a lot of its content (don't ask). But to me 5.7% of a platforms customer base in today's multi-channel environment seems very good. Are you able to provide similar figures for say, Sky 1 so we can compare?

According to BARB, over the past 6 months SKY 1 draws on average 2.5 million daily viewers. SKY 1 however is on SKY, Virgin Media, Talk Talk, Smallworld Cable, Wight Fibre and UPC in Ireland.

SKY Living draws an average of 1.4 million. SKY Living is also available across most platforms.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35651852)
I'm shocked anyone expects high viewing figures its night time schedule with the likes of Boardwalk Empire , Banshee , Game of thrones , Ray Donovan etc are hardly family friendly shows and that's without factoring in the channels only on Sky and Now TV.

I suppose your right. It's not a family orientated channel, it's mainly for adults who want to enjoy high end drama. I must admit if I was 20 years younger, SKY Atlantic would probably never be on in my house. Too busy watching football, The Simpsons and trying to chase girls :D

JustaBloke 03-12-2013 13:19

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651856)
According to BARB, over the past 6 months SKY 1 draws on average 2.5 million daily viewers. SKY 1 however is on SKY, Virgin Media, Talk Talk, Smallworld Cable, Wight Fibre and UPC in Ireland.

SKY Living draws an average of 1.4 million. SKY Living is also available across most platforms.

Ahh, many thanks. It's a pity we don't have comparable figures, but on the face of it, I'd say that 5.7% of viewers was pretty high, not record breaking, but a strong performer.

OLD BOY 03-12-2013 13:32

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35651705)
LOL, I can see the humour in this post. I had to spend ages convincing the missus to let me use her photo though, but she finally gave in.....:erm::)

Gonna draw a line under the previous posts though, I have nothing else to say other than I treat media reports as speculation, I appreciate you may choose to think otherwise.

Well, most of them are based on fact, although this depends on which part of the media you are following! I place more trust in the 'respectable' media than I do in 'tv viewers' and 'insiders'.

Basically, about 99% of posts on here are speculation anyway, so what makes this so different?

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651744)

There is a few things in the article that makes me question its accuracy. The lack of a genuine source being mentioned in the article, just vague references to a "source" or "sources". Secondly the use of some non specific statements and phrases like "it is thought that" or "a deal for Sky Atlantic is likely to be discussed". Finally the article does acknowledge that "a deal is not imminent" and whilst I can understand the point about opening the channel up to a potential 4 million viewers, the channel has been opened up to everyone in the UK with broadband by way of a NOW TV box.

Personally I think the article is more speculation than fact however others will see what they want to see.

But the media don't reveal their sources if the information is given in confidence.

As far as the other matters here are concerned, there was a later piece, I think I read it in the Daily or Sunday Telegraph, which was more positive. It was this article that led to my optimistic posts. The fact that Sky wanted VM to carry Sky Bravo and were even holding up its launch until the negotiations were over I saw as one positive sign.

In fact, it was a whole raft of information that, when put together, appeared to suggest an autumn launch, but with the possibility of drift due to Sky Bravo and Now TV. As I have said before, time will tell if this all comes about.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35651847)
exactly VM wont pay over top and sky wont lower price it not coming people need to realise that

Based on what evidence, Dave? At least I've quoted media sources, which are a lot more reliable than personal opinions and rumours.

This is just your personal opinion. I respect that, but I am a little surprised that you are quite so adamant, particularly as you have repeatedly said 'but I hope I'm wrong, I really do'.

spankysmagicpian 03-12-2013 13:32

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Google has struck a deal with HBO to make Game of Thrones available on its TV service, getting one over rival Apple iTunes, which does not have rights for the hit fantasy series.


HBO has struck a wide-ranging deal to make shows including Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood, Girls and Veep available on the Google Play service for the first time.


The deal will see older shows, such as The Wire, The Sopranos and Band of Brothers available to own and stream via Google Play from next week

OLD BOY 03-12-2013 13:37

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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35651879)
Google has struck a deal with HBO to make Game of Thrones available on its TV service, getting one over rival Apple iTunes, which does not have rights for the hit fantasy series.


HBO has struck a wide-ranging deal to make shows including Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood, Girls and Veep available on the Google Play service for the first time.


The deal will see older shows, such as The Wire, The Sopranos and Band of Brothers available to own and stream via Google Play from next week

That's interesting. How were they able to get over Sky's exclusivity deal with HBO? Maybe VM should link into Google TV by way of an app!

Chad 03-12-2013 13:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35651880)
That's interesting. How were they able to get over Sky's exclusivity deal with HBO? Maybe VM should link into Google TV!

Blinkbox has had HBO content in the UK for the past 16 months:

http://www.screendaily.com/news/dist...045313.article

Blinkbox and Google TV have the pay to stream rights for the shows. Both charge £1.89 per episode. Pretty expensive. Google TV are charging £18.49 to stream the whole first season of Game of Thrones.

OLD BOY 03-12-2013 13:45

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35651882)
Blinkbox has had HBO content in the UK for the past 16 months:

http://www.screendaily.com/news/dist...045313.article

Blinkbox and Google TV have the pay to stream rights for the shows. Both charge £1.89 per episode. Pretty expensive. Google TV are charging £18.49 to stream the whole first season of Game of Thrones.

I see. Still, VM could add these shows to the on demand system on a PPV basis. It would be better than nothing until something else transpires.


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