Re: smoking and the pub
 

Because it's possible to have a chat with a smoker. The non-smokers have got their heads stuck where the sun doesn't shine which makes any decent conversation just about non-existent.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

I know, before anybody reminds me, that you can't ignore one issue just because little is being done about another, but did this article (from Gareth's post) not at least make anybody think where the Government should have started?

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Every year, according to a paper published by the British Medical Journal, some 54 bar staff in the UK die as a result of their exposure to other people's cigarette smoke. And every year, according to the EU, some 39,000 deaths in this country are caused or hastened by air pollution, most of which comes from vehicles. This is a problem three orders of magnitude greater than the one that has filled the newspapers for the past six months, and no one is talking about it.

Taken from here, (originally posted by Gareth).

Re: smoking and the pub
 

You know some very bad pubs then Chris, come down here where all the restaurants/pubs I know with no-smoking areas are free from smoke.
I have the choice, I use my right to choose, I don't like the thought of that right being removed from me.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Once again needlessly offensive, and surprising as I thought I was on the ignore list...

Anyway those people who want to go in and chat with a smoker, well that's fine. The point of a sealed smoking room would be to protect those who actually take an active interest in their own health.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

See you're point there on H&S but I still stand with the individual's right to allow or not allow smoking in their own establishment. Same goes for the individual right to smoke or not to smoke and to be given a choice of freedom where that takes place.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Crikey, you should consider moving to Swindon, mate :) I can (and already have) give you names of 3 pubs within walking distance of my house where you can go without the need to wear a gas mask... and I don't even live in the town centre!
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...or Leighton Buzzard, by the sounds of it, if Swindon doesn't float your boat ;)
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I dunno... :shrug: but it seems that non-smokers like to be able to go in to them at the moment, and that's what they're moaning about. ;)

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Try Scotland, where the concept of a non-smoking section in any cafe is often still considered a novelty. It is atrocious up here. Thankfully, there will be a complete and utter ban on all smoking in public from next April.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

I was starting to miss your patronising ignorance :)

Yep, loving the patronisation....

Re: smoking and the pub
 

There's also the issue that with breaking motoring laws such as dangerous driving, you could spin off the road and take out a pedestrian, whereas with smoking, passive smokers have a choice whether to be in danger or not.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Maybe we should just ban pubs instead - that would be a lot simpler, in my opinion, as we'd all lose out! ;)

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Exactly.
Does make it sound like the rambling association though. We want to go there because we can't, and we want the people already there to make way for us becasue we're so important.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

Good point. ;)

Re: smoking and the pub
 

If you can point me in the direction of an ignorant comment then I might take you seriously. Otherwise I might suggest leaving the little digs out of an otherwise interesting thread.
If we are acknowledging that passive smoking is dangerous I can't see why there is even a debate here. Why should the dangerous habit of a minority be allowed to risk the healths of the majority. It is truly ridiculous and only allowed because smoking has been around for so long.

Re: smoking and the pub
 

That's exactly what it sounds like. :tu: