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Gavin-D 14-02-2018 21:09

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@mjshrimper

They'll be no more bidding this week for the last two Premier League rights packages, which suggests they're a long way off want they want money-wise. Might have to tweak the offer a tad.

alwaysabear 14-02-2018 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936866)
@mjshrimper

They'll be no more bidding this week for the last two Premier League rights packages, which suggests they're a long way off want they want money-wise. Might have to tweak the offer a tad.

They may have to offer more games or spread out more to get people interested.

Chad 15-02-2018 08:42

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The Financial Times giving their view on the Premier League rights sale. Interesting points made about BT's investment in sport and how it could be viewed as a wasted exercise:

https://www.ft.com/content/49a54742-...e-08320fc2a277

Don't know if you'll able to view the link or not. I could but now I can't.

denphone 15-02-2018 09:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936935)
The Financial Times giving their view on the Premier League rights sale. Interesting points made about BT's investment in sport and how it could be viewed as a wasted exercise:

https://www.ft.com/content/49a54742-...e-08320fc2a277

Don't know if you'll able to view the link or not. I could but now I can't.

No you can't Chad.

Mr K 15-02-2018 10:19

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The money, whichever way you look at it, is obscene. Gave up on the Premiership a long time ago. Non-league is where real football and supporters are. tbh, the quality of football isn't much different and the entertainment level higher.

smallclone 15-02-2018 10:42

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35936955)
the quality of football isn't much different

:redcard:

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Chad 15-02-2018 19:43

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936940)
No you can't Chad.

That's a pity. It was a good read. It was highlighting that BT's share price is almost identical to what it was prior to blowing billions on sports rights. Investors are starting to question the strategy as so far, nearly 5 years after becoming involved in sports, the growth they expected hasn't materlised.

1andrew1 15-02-2018 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936935)
The Financial Times giving their view on the Premier League rights sale. Interesting points made about BT's investment in sport and how it could be viewed as a wasted exercise:

https://www.ft.com/content/49a54742-...e-08320fc2a277

Don't know if you'll able to view the link or not. I could but now I can't.

Google the headline "Sky the winner as BT trims Premier League ambitions" and you will be able to read it. Allowed three articles a day this way I think.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35937042)
That's a pity. It was a good read. It was highlighting that BT's share price is almost identical to what it was prior to blowing billions on sports rights. Investors are starting to question the strategy as so far, nearly 5 years after becoming involved in sports, the growth they expected hasn't materlised.

Thing is BT's share price may have been even lower if it hadn't gone down the TV route. The real drain on BT has been the issues with its IT arm, especially Italy.
BT takes £225m hit over Italy accounting scandal

alwaysabear 15-02-2018 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937050)
Google the headline "Sky the winner as BT trims Premier League ambitions" and you will be able to read it. Allowed three articles a day this way I think.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:04 ----------

Thing is BT's share price may have been even lower if it hadn't gone down the TV route. The real drain on BT has been the issues with its IT arm, especially Italy.
BT takes £225m hit over Italy accounting scandal

Not forgetting a massive black hole in the Pension fund approx£14 Billion. http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...lack-hole.html

denphone 15-02-2018 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35937050)
Google the headline "Sky the winner as BT trims Premier League ambitions" and you will be able to read it. Allowed three articles a day this way I think.

---------- Post added at 20:08 ---------- Previous post was at 20:04 ----------

Thing is BT's share price may have been even lower if it hadn't gone down the TV route. The real drain on BT has been the issues with its IT arm, especially Italy.
BT takes £225m hit over Italy accounting scandal

Indeed that is why they went down the TV route to shore up their customer base so they will probably see it as money well spent.

Gavin-D 18-02-2018 15:53

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TV FOR TWO Premier League may sell ‘super pack’ of unsold TV rights while Amazon may join Sky and BT in bidding war

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...tatement:Sport

Richc1977 19-02-2018 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35937479)
TV FOR TWO Premier League may sell ‘super pack’ of unsold TV rights while Amazon may join Sky and BT in bidding war

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...tatement:Sport

I reckon this is a load of bull, just speculation by the press.

PL have already committed to Ofcom that at least 42 matches must go to secondary broadcasters so this would exclude SKY from bidding on this so called super pack. That would seriously piss SKY off as they currently hold the rights to the near live matches and I imagine, given they dedicated PL channel, that they would like to be able to retain these. The PL do not want to piss SKY off.

IMO the only way the PL could make this work would be to exact 10 live games from the packs (maybe the top picks with 10 different times slots, 4 bank holiday, 6 midweek) and then bundle the remaining 30 with the near live rights and clips package.

Raider999 20-02-2018 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35937479)
TV FOR TWO Premier League may sell ‘super pack’ of unsold TV rights while Amazon may join Sky and BT in bidding war

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...tatement:Sport


Do you believe anything written in that apology for a rag?

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As I understand it, the midweek matches package will be spread over 2 or 3 days (Tues, Wed & Thurs) - presumably ok will all be 7:30 to 8pm.

As someone posted, this will suit streaming rather than sky or BT - however it appears either reserve price was too high or bids were derisory.

If these packages are sold way below the others there is a distinct possibility that sky and BT will co-operate to bring the main package prices down next time around. Additionally PL will not endear themselves to sky and BT who supply a huge amount of money if others get rights for a fraction of what sky and BT pay.

OB was wrong this time, now concentrating on next time - somethings never change.

Forgot to say, the streaming of NRL games outside of Australia & New Zealand has now been priced.

8 games available each week for the princely sum of £22 per month - needless to say I have declined and will watch the 2 games a week included in my sky subscription.

OLD BOY 20-02-2018 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35937807)
Do you believe anything written in that apology for a rag?

---------- Post added at 18:54 ---------- Previous post was at 18:47 ----------

As I understand it, the midweek matches package will be spread over 2 or 3 days (Tues, Wed & Thurs) - presumably ok will all be 7:30 to 8pm.

As someone posted, this will suit streaming rather than sky or BT - however it appears either reserve price was too high or bids were derisory.

If these packages are sold way below the others there is a distinct possibility that sky and BT will co-operate to bring the main package prices down next time around. Additionally PL will not endear themselves to sky and BT who supply a huge amount of money if others get rights for a fraction of what sky and BT pay.

OB was wrong this time, now concentrating on next time - somethings never change.

Forgot to say, the streaming of NRL games outside of Australia & New Zealand has now been priced.

8 games available each week for the princely sum of £22 per month - needless to say I have declined and will watch the 2 games a week included in my sky subscription.

What? I have been saying for quite a while that although an Amazon bid was possible this time, a serious bid was unlikely until the 2022 process. You are either twisting what I said deliberately or you are misremembering.

A quick check of my previous posts will confirm what I have just said.

muppetman11 20-02-2018 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35937811)
What? I have been saying for quite a while that although an Amazon bid was possible this time, a serious bid was unlikely until the 2022 process. You are either twisting what I said deliberately or you are misremembering.

A quick check of my previous posts will confirm what I have just said.

It's not likely at all put simply it's too expensive just for UK rights alone and wouldn't benefit Amazon at all.

The Sports rights Amazon picks up will be smaller ones and rights it can exploit across multiple territories.


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