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Heed 03-06-2008 12:18
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jelv (Post 34566346)
Can people go to http://www.webwise.com/privacy/index.html and then repeatedly click the bottom "You can choose" link.

I'm now seeing something very strange and wonder if others are seeing the same.
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".

Ravenheart 03-06-2008 12:25
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heed (Post 34566352)
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
Same result here too.

serial 03-06-2008 12:26
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
They've put a video on the page, check out the location:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/phorm/PrivacyLongGen2.flv

It's hosted on an amazon server.

thebarron 03-06-2008 12:30
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34566356)
Same result here too.
Same here too.

jelv 03-06-2008 12:42
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heed (Post 34566352)
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
Looks like they are developing/testing on the live website - fills you with confidence doesn't it!

They should realise that we will spot anything like that by now!

---------- Post added at 12:42 ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 ----------

Do we need to post the following to as many forums as possible?


Quote:
To determine if your ISP is participating in Webwise and if so, if it is enabled, you can check using this Webwise link
:D

Wildie 03-06-2008 12:46
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit.

fidbod 03-06-2008 12:52
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heed (Post 34566352)
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
Same result here - commercial sdsl line

SelfProtection 03-06-2008 12:55
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildie (Post 34566370)
what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit.
And if an occasional Alert comes up on any Web Page that reminds you that Webwise is "on" or "OFF" it proves the Phorm System is still monitoring & "Occasionally setting ads", in particular the AD to tell you Webwise is "OFF"????.

Mentioned in the Video above!

Dephormation 03-06-2008 13:01
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jelv (Post 34566346)
Can people go to http://www.webwise.com/privacy/index.html and then repeatedly click the bottom "You can choose" link.

I'm now seeing something very strange and wonder if others are seeing the same.
No cookie setting detected here, but it is odd.

tarka 03-06-2008 13:09
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Did anyone notice that in the video the ISP's listed as offering webwise were BT and Talk Talk, no mention of VM?

TheBruce1 03-06-2008 13:09
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
I got webwise is switched On.

No cookies set, which is not surprising as i have webwise cookies blocked.http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8399/thumbsup4kk.gif

Rchivist 03-06-2008 13:11
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jelv (Post 34566346)
Can people go to http://www.webwise.com/privacy/index.html and then repeatedly click the bottom "You can choose" link.

I'm now seeing something very strange and wonder if others are seeing the same.
It isn't setting cookies at the moment, just rotating between the various on/off/not enabled pages.

icsys 03-06-2008 13:20
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jelv (Post 34566281)
How many ISP's are preparing to participate in the Webwise "trial".

If I go to http://www.webwise.com/privacy/can-choose-NA.html from the office I get a page that says:

You Can Choose
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP

If I go to the same page from my home connection I get:

You Can Choose
Webwise is currently: OFF

My ISP is NOT BT, Talk Talk or VM.
I am with VM and i get presented with:

You Can Choose
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP

No cookies set.
However visiting http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/out.html sets a cookie as before:

OPTED_OUT
YES
webwise.net/
1024
3600677760
30081815
47305360
29934965
*

privacy/can-choose-on.html and privacy/can-choose-off.html seem to be mirrors of
privacy/opt/in.html and privacy/opt/out.html but the latter have less text.

davethejag 03-06-2008 13:53
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heed (Post 34566352)
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
Hi, Yes I am getting exactly the same to!

Dave (thejag)

icsys 03-06-2008 13:55
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
After watching that video, I noted several times the phrase 'webwise never knows where you have been'. Then, further on the video goes on to say 'user 123 has been to travel sites X or Y'. But I thought that 'webwise never knows where you have been'?. How then do you know I have been to website X or Y?


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