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jfman 29-07-2020 17:18

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Hostility does sound awfully adversarial.

1andrew1 29-07-2020 23:40

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80 more lnear TV channels launched, this time courtesy of Plex. I'm sure MadMax will be cancelling his summer hols so as not to miss out on the treats in store whilst others may be surprised at the growing number of linear TV channels on offer :D
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The new Live TV service, meanwhile, will offer easier access to a broad range of free content across categories like news, sports, film, classic TV, comedy, game shows, anime, kids, entertainment, esports and more.

The channel lineup includes Reuters, Yahoo Finance, Toon Goggles, Kidoodle TV, KidsFlix,
fubo Sports Network, Cooking Panda, DrinkTV, IGN TV, AFV Family, Tastemade, Revry, FailArmy, Dove Channel, Docurama, The Pet Collective, WeatherSpy, Made in Hollywood and others. There also are channels dedicated to individual programs, like The Bob Ross Channel or Deal or No Deal, for example. Others are more thematic in nature, like Surf TV, the Law & Crime Trial Network, Game Show Central, Retro Crush, Gravitas Movies and more. A range of music video channels, also genre-based, fill out the selection.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/23/pl...ble-worldwide/

Mad Max 30-07-2020 11:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36045061)
80 more lnear TV channels launched, this time courtesy of Plex. I'm sure MadMax will be cancelling his summer hols so as not to miss out on the treats in store whilst others may be surprised at the growing number of linear TV channels on offer :D

https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/23/pl...ble-worldwide/

:D:D

Cooking ****ing panda.....ffs

denphone 30-07-2020 12:25

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36045077)
:D:D

Cooking ****ing panda.....ffs

Go on MM give it a go as l am sure you will enjoy it...:D:D

heero_yuy 30-07-2020 13:26

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Mmm panda steaks: I'll have mine medium-rare. :D

OLD BOY 30-07-2020 20:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36045061)
80 more lnear TV channels launched, this time courtesy of Plex. I'm sure MadMax will be cancelling his summer hols so as not to miss out on the treats in store whilst others may be surprised at the growing number of linear TV channels on offer :D

https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/23/pl...ble-worldwide/

Can't wait! :erm:

Did you manage to find anything actually worth watching on there? If linear channels become synonymous with utter crap, I can't see this lot gaining much traction. Let's see where this goes! :D

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36045042)
Hostility does sound awfully adversarial.

I named no names...:;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36045012)

Do l sense a backtracking of what you originally believed would happen.;)

Nope. I maintain that by 2035, VOD and streaming will be the options available, although I concede that Pluto type channels via IPTV may still exist. However, they will most likely be a minority interest.

In my humble opinion, of course!

denphone 30-07-2020 20:49

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36045106)
I named no names...:;)

Crystal balls reveal everything....;)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36045106)
Nope. I maintain that by 2035, VOD and streaming will be the options available, although I concede that Pluto type channels via IPTV may still exist. However, they will most likely be a minority interest.

In my humble opinion, of course!

You are indeed entitled to your opinion.:)

Raider999 31-07-2020 10:18

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36045111)
Crystal balls reveal everything....;)

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You are indeed entitled to your opinion.:)

As we are entitled to disagree.

However, if we cannot sort Covid-19 out it will not matter as very few will be around to see 2035

1andrew1 31-07-2020 10:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36045106)
Nope. I maintain that by 2035, VOD and streaming will be the options available, although I concede that Pluto type channels via IPTV may still exist. However, they will most likely be a minority interest.

In my humble opinion, of course!

Would this be an accurate understanding of your beliefs, Old Boy?
- we will still have linear channels (albeit fewer than we have today) but the means of distribution of these will not be by traditional cable, satellite or aerial transmission but by streaming.

(It's not a trick question, I just want to clarify what the debate is. ;)

Legendkiller2k 31-07-2020 12:55

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36045169)
Would this be an accurate understanding of your beliefs, Old Boy?
- we will still have linear channels (albeit fewer than we have today) but the means of distribution of these will not be by traditional cable, satellite or aerial transmission but by streaming.

(It's not a trick question, I just want to clarify what the debate is. ;)

Not sure about aerial tbh mate with 5G etc and the mobile carriers wanting more bandwidth but sattelite and cable certainly isn't going anywhere.

OLD BOY 31-07-2020 14:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36045169)
Would this be an accurate understanding of your beliefs, Old Boy?
- we will still have linear channels (albeit fewer than we have today) but the means of distribution of these will not be by traditional cable, satellite or aerial transmission but by streaming.

(It's not a trick question, I just want to clarify what the debate is. ;)

All I ever meant to put across was that watching linear channels the way we do now will cease to be. The terrestrial transmitters will not be used and all viewing in the future will be IPTV and - let's say - the vast majority will be streaming or watching by VOD.

I confess that I did not foresee Pluto's way of presenting linear TV, and that may still keep going for the foreseeable future, but I have to say that the BBC i-Player does much the same thing - select a channel and you can opt to watch live or from the beginning, as well as select from the VOD library. Having said that, I think few will use the live version of Pluto by then; most will have already opted to watch their fayre via the on demand section of the site.

The main thrust is this. In my view, BBC1, 2 and the rest, ITV, ITV2 and the rest... and so on, will no longer exist in that form. Instead, the BBC will have one streamer for all their channels, as will ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky. The terrestrials may all come together under one umbrella, such as Britbox. All Sky material will be in one place as well, and presented in 'on demand' or 'streaming' forms via IPTV. I think Peacock, rather than Now TV will be used for this purpose, but Sky could choose to keep Now TV going as their cheap and cheerful service.

Linear TV in future will be streamed TV, and of course, the technical issues including latency will be overcome by then.

I do hear what people say about flopping into their armchairs and just watching what's on, but I'm sure that the various streaming services will find ways to address that - for example with lots of previews playing on full screen or in PIP while you gather your thoughts or search, or perhaps a programme could be automatically selected randomly from the library.

I hope that gives a sense of what I think will happen.

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36045200)
Not sure about aerial tbh mate with 5G etc and the mobile carriers wanting more bandwidth but sattelite and cable certainly isn't going anywhere.

Maybe not cable, but why would Sky continue to pay out for satellites when they have IPTV? Of course satellites will exist for the time being, but once broadband is rolled out at appropriate speeds all over the country, prepare for major change.

Legendkiller2k 31-07-2020 15:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36045206)
All I ever meant to put across was that watching linear channels the way we do now will cease to be. The terrestrial transmitters will not be used and all viewing in the future will be IPTV and - let's say - the vast majority will be streaming or watching by VOD.

I confess that I did not foresee Pluto's way of presenting linear TV, and that may still keep going for the foreseeable future, but I have to say that the BBC i-Player does much the same thing - select a channel and you can opt to watch live or from the beginning, as well as select from the VOD library. Having said that, I think few will use the live version of Pluto by then; most will have already opted to watch their fayre via the on demand section of the site.

The main thrust is this. In my view, BBC1, 2 and the rest, ITV, ITV2 and the rest... and so on, will no longer exist in that form. Instead, the BBC will have one streamer for all their channels, as will ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Sky. The terrestrials may all come together under one umbrella, such as Britbox. All Sky material will be in one place as well, and presented in 'on demand' or 'streaming' forms via IPTV. I think Peacock, rather than Now TV will be used for this purpose, but Sky could choose to keep Now TV going as their cheap and cheerful service.

Linear TV in future will be streamed TV, and of course, the technical issues including latency will be overcome by then.

I do hear what people say about flopping into their armchairs and just watching what's on, but I'm sure that the various streaming services will find ways to address that - for example with lots of previews playing on full screen or in PIP while you gather your thoughts or search, or perhaps a programme could be automatically selected randomly from the library.

I hope that gives a sense of what I think will happen.

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Maybe not cable, but why would Sky continue to pay out for satellites when they have IPTV? Of course satellites will exist for the time being, but once broadband is rolled out at appropriate speeds all over the country, prepare for major change.

Freesat OB freesat the UK simply does not have the infrastructure for everyone to have iptv at the moment and if Boris and co are still in in 15 years time (going by your date here) it won't have the infrastructure then either.
But..... Given that new space x broadband who knows?

OLD BOY 31-07-2020 15:56

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36045219)
Freesat OB freesat the UK simply does not have the infrastructure for everyone to have iptv at the moment and if Boris and co are still in in 15 years time (going by your date here) it won't have the infrastructure then either.
But..... Given that new space x broadband who knows?

My prediction has always presumed that the infrastructure will be in place. Clearly, that is crucial, but I have no reason to believe that it won't be.

Boris's timetable for delivery of broadband may well slip, but only by a few years.

Chris 31-07-2020 15:58

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36045206)

I confess that I did not foresee

Finally!

OLD BOY 31-07-2020 16:09

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36045228)
Finally!

It makes little difference, Chris. I can't see Pluto getting much of an audience. Don't be surprised if they ditch the live TV bit, although I do acknowledge that with their system, as with the BBC i-Player, you can at least watch these 'live' programmes from the start.


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