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1andrew1 21-10-2021 23:29
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36098419)
Except, of course, that Covid is not responsible for such admissions.
What do you mean by "such admissions?"

OLD BOY 21-10-2021 23:35
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36098405)
There’s no point in engaging extensively with someone who clearly doesn’t understand the situation. And isn’t willing to.
I guess we should stop responding to your posts then. Where’s the fun in that?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36098421)
What do you mean by "such admissions?"
Admissions that are not due to Covid.

Sephiroth 21-10-2021 23:46
Re: Coronavirus
 
I know two on this forum who would still be arguing.

1andrew1 22-10-2021 00:37
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098426)
I know two on this forum who would still be arguing.
Debating, surely?

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36098422)
Admissions that are not due to Covid.
An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.

If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?

OLD BOY 22-10-2021 07:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36098430)
Debating, surely?

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An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.

If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?
Oh, so it doesn't matter whether or not the increase in hospital admissions are due to Covid, if they get busy, we should all wear facemasks anyway!

Seriously, Andrew, what are you like? :D

Sephiroth 22-10-2021 08:24
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36098430)
Debating, surely?

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An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.

If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?
That's in the realms of the bleedin' obvious. And if the number of people in hospital remains approximately where it is because people get discharged, then there's not so much of a problem.

It's prolly time that some granularity in the figures should be provided.

1andrew1 22-10-2021 09:45
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36098437)
Oh, so it doesn't matter whether or not the increase in hospital admissions are due to Covid, if they get busy, we should all wear facemasks anyway!

Seriously, Andrew, what are you like? :D
How else do you propose reducing hospital admissions? Instructing everyone to drive at 10 mph? Banning contact sport?

Maggy 22-10-2021 09:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
Time gentlefolk to actually settle down and debate like adults.If you can't then I suggest you leave the thread.

Paul 23-10-2021 01:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321

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Advising people to work from home is likely to have the most impact on stopping Covid spreading this winter, scientists advising the government say.
I can live with that, been doing it for 19 months now anyway.

OLD BOY 23-10-2021 20:02
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36098509)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321



I can live with that, been doing it for 19 months now anyway.
I disagree. The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed. They should stick to the criteria and not be influenced by those peddling their own agendas.

TheDaddy 23-10-2021 20:27
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36098579)
I disagree. The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed. They should stick to the criteria and not be influenced by those peddling their own agendas.
Yes don't be influenced by the scientists advising government even though they've been telling us for months that we must follow the science

Doesn't seem like that long ago we were clapping the NHS workers, now those nasty parasites we call a government have declared war on GP's

Sephiroth 23-10-2021 21:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36098587)
Yes don't be influenced by the scientists advising government even though they've been telling us for months that we must follow the science

Doesn't seem like that long ago we were clapping the NHS workers, now those nasty parasites we call a government have declared war on GP's
Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.

GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?

I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.

spiderplant 23-10-2021 21:08
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36098579)
The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed.
They have? I totally missed that one. Please provide a link.

TheDaddy 23-10-2021 21:31
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098589)
Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.

GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?

I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.
Not enough of them trying to cope with far to many patients imo. It is bad, I've been tempted several times recently to sign up with private health care through my partners work but everytime I have to spend 7 hours in the polyclinic because my GP won't see me I think this is exactly what the government want so feck 'em I'll put up with it. My practise was described as inadequate but it worked so much better then than it does now

Hugh 23-10-2021 22:22
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36098589)
Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.

GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?

I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.
Speaking to friends who are GPs, one of the major challenges is the increase in older patients* (who often have complex needs, so a 10 minute standard appointment isn’t sufficient, and they require more appointments due to the complex needs).

Also, there are fewer GPS - there are now just 0.45 fully qualified GPs per 1000 patients in England – down from 0.52 in 2015. https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-su...neral-practice



*5.5 million over 75, 1.6 million over 85, 600k over 90.


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