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Damien 18-07-2019 08:28
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003131)
I agree on the narrow point about wisdom. But picking up on the sentiment, rules for party membership have nothing to do with electoral roll rules.
Nope. But the Tories have to right with their membership rules but successive governments have it wrong on voting age IMO.

Maggy 18-07-2019 09:51
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
The position of Prime Minister is not a constitutional one thus there is no need to hold a vote for the next PM. The PM has always been the head of the party that holds the most MPs..There is no need to hold an election every time that leader retires,dies or is forced by their party to step down as leader of their party.

General elections are expensive affairs which is why they are restricted to only being held when time is up or when a sitting PM is stupid enough to think they can increase the number of MPs in their party by holding a snap election.

ianch99 18-07-2019 09:55
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36003110)
Not pompous - constitutionally accurate. Detail matters.
Hah! So what does paragraph 5c say? :)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 36003142)
The position of Prime Minister is not a constitutional one thus there is no need to hold a vote for the next PM. The PM has always been the head of the party that holds the most MPs..There is no need to hold an election every time that leader retires,dies or is forced by their party to step down as leader of their party.

General elections are expensive affairs which is why they are restricted to only being held when time is up or when a sitting PM is stupid enough to think they can increase the number of MPs in their party by holding a snap election.
What if the new PM aims to depart (significantly) from the policy agenda his predecessor was elected on?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36003131)
I agree on the narrow point about wisdom. But picking up on the sentiment, rules for party membership have nothing to do with electoral roll rules.
The credibility of the party is undermined if they impose voting constraints on the wider population whilst not imposing the same on themselves.

Pierre 18-07-2019 10:40
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 36003142)
The position of Prime Minister is not a constitutional one thus there is no need to hold a vote for the next PM. The PM has always been the head of the party that holds the most MPs..There is no need to hold an election every time that leader retires,dies or is forced by their party to step down as leader of their party.

General elections are expensive affairs which is why they are restricted to only being held when time is up or when a sitting PM is stupid enough to think they can increase the number of MPs in their party by holding a snap election.
Best post I've read on here for a while.

Mr K 18-07-2019 11:11
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36003153)
Best post I've read on here for a while.
I think the problem is the hypocrisy of some people saying different when it was Gordon Brown (Mr Bozza Blobby the chief culprit).

Hugh 18-07-2019 13:40
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
It would appear BJ doesn't know what he is talking about...

In the final hustings meeting, he brandished a kipper and said that the manufacturer, because of EU rules, had to wrap the kipper in plastic and put in a plastic ice pillow to keep it fresh.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...llows-exposed/

These are UK rules, not EU - the EU does not regulate the sales of smoked fish to consumer, only business to business.
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Boris Johnson's claims that the EU forces smoked kipper producers to pack their fish with an "ice pillow" are false, with the relevant food safety rules being written in Britain rather than Westminster.

Mr Johnson wielded a packaged smoked kipper above his head at the final Tory leadership hustings on Wednesday and promised to cut Britain free of Brussels red tape after Brexit.

He was reportedly handed the kipper by a newspaper editor, who claimed he had been sent the fish by an Isle of Man fishmonger who complained of the cost of the Brussels-imposed ice pillow.

But the rules that force the deployment of the pillow are British rules. The EU does not have the power to regulate the sales of smoked fish, only fresh.
The EU has broad rules saying that food should be safe but nothing asking for the ice pillow - that is a British addition designed to stop Listeria, a problem with smoked products.

Carth 18-07-2019 13:49
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Where was the Kipper caught, and who by?

Was it a Male or Female Kipper?

Was the process of smoking the Kipper followed correctly according to rules & legislation?

These are the questions the Public need answering, no life changing decisions can be made unless we have access to the full facts surrounding the case

papa smurf 18-07-2019 14:24
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36003211)
Where was the Kipper caught, and who by?

Was it a Male or Female Kipper?

Was the process of smoking the Kipper followed correctly according to rules & legislation?

These are the questions the Public need answering, no life changing decisions can be made unless we have access to the full facts surrounding the case
It was a none binary kipper,you you you Towny you ;)

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36003207)
It would appear BJ doesn't know what he is talking about...

In the final hustings meeting, he brandished a kipper and said that the manufacturer, because of EU rules, had to wrap the kipper in plastic and put in a plastic ice pillow to keep it fresh.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...llows-exposed/

These are UK rules, not EU - the EU does not regulate the sales of smoked fish to consumer, only business to business.

The EU has broad rules saying that food should be safe but nothing asking for the ice pillow - that is a British addition designed to stop Listeria, a problem with smoked products.
Never had that with woodbines;)

ianch99 18-07-2019 15:34
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36003207)
It would appear BJ doesn't know what he is talking about...
First sentence is enough ..

Some good news, Johnson's possible plan to prorogue Parliament has been made that much harder to enact:

MPs pass amendment seeking to thwart no-deal Brexit prorogation

Quote:
Johnson, the clear favourite to be declared winner of the Conservative leadership contest against Jeremy Hunt next week, and thus replace Theresa May as prime minister, has repeatedly refused to rule out using prorogation to ensure a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

The scale of the victory highlights the struggle he will have to impose his will over Brexit, or other subjects, on a Commons without a Tory majority, and where much Conservative internal discipline has broken down.

Hugh 18-07-2019 16:15
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Just to keep things on track - as long as the subject is still the Leadership, Brexit-adjacent topics are allowed.

If it turns into a Brexit thread, posts will be deleted.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 17:07
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36003239)
First sentence is enough ..

Some good news, Johnson's possible plan to prorogue Parliament has been made that much harder to enact:

MPs pass amendment seeking to thwart no-deal Brexit prorogation
What is it with MPs that they have to give away their strategies in advance? It could only happen here!

I hope that when Boris gets in, he will play things closer to his chest. If I read him correctly, he will. He seems to be giving the press as little ammunition to use against him as possible, which seems like a good plan.

denphone 18-07-2019 17:15
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003253)
What is it with MPs that they have to give away their strategies in advance? It could only happen here!

I hope that when Boris gets in, he will play things closer to his chest. If I read him correctly, he will. He seems to be giving the press as little ammunition to use against him as possible, which seems like a good plan.
Just like Theresa Mays plan as that was such a good plan according to you.

OLD BOY 18-07-2019 17:20
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36003256)
Just like Theresa Mays plan as that was such a good plan according to you.
It was a pretty good idea to have a transition arrangement. Unfortunately, she was too accommodating to the EU and couldn't see the problem with a permanent backstop.

ianch99 18-07-2019 17:37
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003253)
What is it with MPs that they have to give away their strategies in advance? It could only happen here!

I hope that when Boris gets in, he will play things closer to his chest. If I read him correctly, he will. He seems to be giving the press as little ammunition to use against him as possible, which seems like a good plan.
I actually think Johnson was bluffing when he said he would not rule this out. Raab may have done this but Johnson is more concerned with his historical legacy than anything and denying Parliamentary Sovereignty to gain Parliamentary Sovereignty would not be his finest hour looking back.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36003248)
Just to keep things on track - as long as the subject is still the Leadership, Brexit-adjacent topics are allowed.

If it turns into a Brexit thread, posts will be deleted.
Can you remind us all why this forum is denying a discussion on this the most current of Current Affairs?

Sephiroth 18-07-2019 17:53
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36003133)
Nope. But the Tories have to right with their membership rules but successive governments have it wrong on voting age IMO.
There I disagree with you. I want voters to at least have got some in, know something about taxation and what it buys, pensions, current affairs.


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