Re: Theresa May must resign
 

No, let's not, just because you and SOME other people made a cognitive decision does not mean at all that MOST people made the decision by the same process. The same applies to those in the remain group.

A percentage of the electorate are as thick as a whale omelette. regardless of their voting history. So, lets not play everyone made an informed decision because they most certainly didn't.

The discussion on this board is not representative of society as a whole as almost all of the posters regardless of their position operate at higher intelligence (both in IQ and also emotional intelligence) than the nation as a whole.


And since you can see into the future,I'll this take this weeks lottery numbers thanks. The current position is for Brexit to happen, that doesn't mean that it can't or won't change.

Re: Brexit
 

... that being the case, surely the ill-informed remainers cancel out the ill-informed leavers, and owing to their whale omelette thickness, they will vote thickly no matter how many times the vote is re-run.

So what’s the point re-running it on the premise that people are now better informed? There was a thorough debate in 2016, it would be no different again.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

As usual its the same patronising gibberish that OB thinks he is superior in his decision making then others on this forum as each of us made our decision on the information that was at hand whether it was one way or the other and everybody should be shown some respect for the personal decisions they made at the end of it whether they voted to remain or to leave..

Re: Brexit
 

It does indeed cancel it out, I think some people on boths sides of the camp may have a greater knowledge. Were a 2nd referendum to happen some previous remainers may change view because of their views on the EU's behavior. Some remain may change because of how they see things unfolding.

It would be still be close run however.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

Actually we will, if I so.

It is very insulting to say one group of voters did not know what they were voting for when there was plenty of information indicating what it bloody meant.

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No Den that is totally wrong - it's actually some Remainers who think they are superior by insisting they had a better understanding than the leavers. They had equal amounts of knowledge.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

I think you should read my post again, I said quite clearly that it applied to both camps, not just leave... So not insulting at all. Apology accepted in advance.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

No l would say there are some on both sides that think they that they were superior in insisting they had a better understanding then others as in this country we need to get away from the stereotypical its them or us attitude if ever this country is ever to heal the divisions that we currently have in this country and from where l am looking there seems zero chance of that happening.

My problems have never been with the democratic referendum vote but what has followed since.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

Hmm. Disputable. The Swindon Honda car workers didn't think their factory would close due to Brexit. It is now. Very sad news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47282603
https://news.sky.com/story/honda-to-...ctory-11641154

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

Den, I applaud you. :clap:

People trying to impose a simplistic, binary revisionist interpretation on the recent past. We all know what really happened so we can all ignore such rubbish.

We have the dogma driven ideologues both on the left and right that look like they are taking this country into a place where most of the population will not want to be when they arrive.

We have the disingenuous "Didn't we say you would be poorer? So sorry" No Dealers. The ones that, almost to a man would be financially insulated from the fallout, who are gleefully anticipating the amoral free market paradise that they wish to form. A Singapore 2.0 if you wish. They are snake oil salesman: "Of course, the pain will only be short lived, trust me"

Then you have the King of Clowns, Mr Corbyn. He who dreams of being free from the EU constraints that would stop him creating a dogma driven hard left disaster of a country.

The only consolation is that sooner or later, once this debacle plays out, we will vote to rejoin the EU but on much poorer terms.

Revenge is a dish best served cold :)

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

Not 100% partially Brexit because manufacture in Japan can currently guarantee tariff free deals with the EU BUT Honda's European headquarters will remain in the UK

How many automotive manufacturing jobs have been lost or are due to be lost in the UK in the past/next six months? Are we up too about 12,000ish so far ? All of which have Brexit at some part entwined in their reasoning.

These job loses of course would have happened anyway, so say the soothsayers.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

"Sometimes the best revenge is to smile and walk away"

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

Is there anyway for you to show that even if we were to remain in the EU that Japanese companies would not repatriate jobs to Japan now that there is a free trade deal with the EU in place?

Have you considered that employment rules and regulations in Japan may make it more profitable to those companies to repatriate jobs?

It is never a plain simple "its because of or partly due to" Brexit.

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

That's what happened here

Tory Brexiter suddenly leaves interview after being confronted about incorrect Marshall Plan claims
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brex...marshall-plan/

and here

Britain's richest person to leave UK for tax-free Monaco
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ax-free-monaco

Re: Theresa May must resign
 

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Re: Brexit
 

Seems to me that, with all the car manufacturers running away, there's a great opportunity for some 'home grown' product

Hillman Minx, Austin Allegro ? :D :D