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Dave42 12-10-2013 15:00

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631189)
All sky do is raise prices in the face of competition, unless they lower them, not likely to happen, they have to milk everything for what they've got, and they can't do that when holding back channels as ad revenue and reach decreases.

Only 5% of Sky Customers actually watch Atlantic on a regular basis, and this is the only missing Sky channel where virgin are missing out on the content. Personally I can't see those 5% causing too much of an issue for Sky has not only is Virgin available in less areas but Sky are getting more and more new customers everyday, if all 5% left, they would have them back in a month or two.

if sky was bothered about ad revenue they would let others have the channels long time ago there not and if sky was bothered and the crap SA viewing figures it would been on others long time ago too they not they think people chose sky because of SA even though viewing figures contradict that they want people to get sky pay for the boxes and pay the HD charge they don't want to lose customers which they will lose lots if they give VM the withheld channels

Risco 12-10-2013 15:10

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631209)
if sky was bothered about ad revenue they would let others have the channels long time ago there not and if sky was bothered and the crap SA viewing figures it would been on others long time ago too they not they think people chose sky because of SA even though viewing figures contradict that they want people to get sky pay for the boxes and pay the HD charge they don't want to lose customers which they will lose lots if they give VM the withheld channels

For the love of god, please use punctuation! :Yikes:

andy_m 12-10-2013 15:42

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It might only be 5% who actually watch the channel, but it's a hell of a lot more who actually cite the channel as a reason for choosing Sky. Whether they end up watching it is pretty immaterial. Sky think it drives a quarter of their subs.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631209)
if sky was bothered about ad revenue they would let others have the channels long time ago there not and if sky was bothered and the crap SA viewing figures it would been on others long time ago too they not they think people chose sky because of SA even though viewing figures contradict that they want people to get sky pay for the boxes and pay the HD charge they don't want to lose customers which they will lose lots if they give VM the withheld channels

I posted before I read this post, but, basically, this ^^

Chad 12-10-2013 16:08

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631189)
Only 5% of Sky Customers actually watch Atlantic on a regular basis

The figure is closer to 7% however between 15% to 20% of SKY customers regularly watch SKY Atlantic shows via on demand and catch up. I've seen the stats as part of a focus group on the channel. Personally I've never watched anything on the channel "live". I tend to record shows or download full boxsets to my SKY+ box.

JustaBloke 12-10-2013 16:09

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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35631212)
For the love of god, please use punctuation! :Yikes:

That won't be well received in here, this is the temple of the great illiterate king...

ocav 12-10-2013 16:11

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631209)
if sky was bothered about ad revenue they would let others have the channels long time ago there not and if sky was bothered and the crap SA viewing figures it would been on others long time ago too they not they think people chose sky because of SA even though viewing figures contradict that they want people to get sky pay for the boxes and pay the HD charge they don't want to lose customers which they will lose lots if they give VM the withheld channels

I think i've got what you said, however;

The only channel which will increase Ad Revenue if on VM will be Sky Atlantic as all the others currently exist in Standard Definition form.

Sky will get money from Virgin Media adding these channels, which is what im saying by milking the channels for all they are worth.

Again, Virgin Media is available in a lot less places than Sky, not many people will now switch from Virgin Media just for Sky Atlantic, and not many people will switch from Sky just because Atlantic is on Virgin Media.

Those on here who said if VM gets Atlantic then they will switch back have also said that they will only do it if the price is better than what Sky can offer, its not Atlantic that will keep them, its the price, so what they did is put the prices up.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35631224)
The figure is closer to 7% however between 15% to 20% of SKY customers regularly watch SKY Atlantic shows via on demand and catch up. I've seen the stats as part of a focus group on the channel. Personally I've never watched anything on the channel "live". I tend to record shows or download full boxsets to my SKY+ box.

I was going with the figure of an average of just over 500,000 views (based on BARB ratings) with a 10 million Sky subscribers (which is a lot less than there actually are), that therefore would be 5%

Chad 12-10-2013 16:18

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631226)
I was going with the figure of an average of just over 500,000 views (based on BARB ratings) with a 10 million Sky subscribers (which is a lot less than there actually are), that therefore would be 5%

I can see what you've done there

OLD BOY 12-10-2013 16:27

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35630875)
the day we get them the day sky lose lots of customers to VM cant see it happening at all sky don't want to lose customers to VM as I said lots of times only sky channels we got a chance of is SSN HD and sky news HD

It's coming, Dave!

Mr Banana 12-10-2013 18:03

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631231)
It's coming, Dave!


I'm not to sure, not heard anything at all whereas I did with BT sports.

denphone 12-10-2013 19:03

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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35631142)
It wouldn't be right if denphone wasn't making a blinkered, uninformed dig at Sky though would it?

Somebody has to keep the dastardly minions sent by thy master in check and here is another one with the usual rose tinted glasses on.:)

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35631225)
That won't be well received in here, this is the temple of the great illiterate king...

That's detention for you tonight then. ;):D

Doug P 12-10-2013 19:03

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Heaven protect us from the dustbin lid invasion.... :-)

martin201002 12-10-2013 19:42

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Would love to know why so many people are lusting after sky Atlantic, its very overrated had it for 3 years when I was with sky only watched smash.

Chad 12-10-2013 19:56

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Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35631301)
Would love to know why so many people are lusting after sky Atlantic, its very overrated had it for 3 years when I was with sky only watched smash.

Everyone has different viewing tastes. Some people love American drama, some people don't. SKY Atlantic isn't for everyone, just like BT Sports being added to the XL package added zero value for non-sports fans. Personally I enjoy some of the programming on Atlantic but most American and period drama I'm looking forward too is on other channels i.e. Walking Dead, Sleepy Hollow, Ripper Street, American Horror Story, The Blacklist, True Blood etc....

Hugh 12-10-2013 20:06

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Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35631301)
Would love to know why so many people are lusting after sky Atlantic, its very overrated had it for 3 years when I was with sky only watched smash.

Atlantic has some very good programmes - not enough to make me change supplier, but very good nonetheless.

citizenx 12-10-2013 20:07

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35631219)
It might only be 5% who actually watch the channel, but it's a hell of a lot more who actually cite the channel as a reason for choosing Sky. Whether they end up watching it is pretty immaterial. Sky think it drives a quarter of their subs.[COLOR="Silver"]

Well then, It'll be interesting to see what happens when Now TV launch their Entertainment Package which is currently undergoing beta testing.

The current test involves it being available through the Now TV app on various platforms both live and with on demand content.

That exclusivity certainly appears to be coming to an end even if Sky do own the Now TV service.


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