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Kymmy

07-09-2009 12:58

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Yeah but look at Lewis and Hieki when Lewis had the shortened chassis for the EU GP, I think that Ferrari has for the last few weeks concentrated purely on Kimi's car with development with the 2nd car at least a few races behind

sherer

07-09-2009 13:01

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Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 34868416)

I'm not saying Badoer should have been challenging Kimi, but he should at least have been challenging for points. He was never even close.

I think Fridays are a much underutilised resource. Given that the teams are all there with the kit , circuits providing marshalling and safety cover and paying spectators looking to see stuff why not let them run three cars on Friday with the third car being available for a pay driver in the case of teams looking for funding or a real test for rookie drivers in a representative environment. To limit track crowding teams could be limited to two cars on track at one time. Tweak the engine regs to give teams an allocation of engines for the year to be split between the drivers as necessary. That way the Friday drivers could always have the old engines............

the trouble with that idea is it is quite a sensible one. The only problem with that is if the F1 teams are at a race then no matter what they say they will do setup work for the race. This was the problem last time they had third drivers and longer running on a Friday. No actual testing got done just race work. Monday after the GP might be a better idea

hedgie

07-09-2009 13:25

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I think thats what Moto GP do. I am sure they had a big test after the Brno round. An extra day for spectators then :)

It would seem to suit everybody.

Teams get actual testing
Small teams get possible revenue from pay drivers
New drivers get F1 mileage
Spectators get more access to F1
Circuits get more income

Who would loose out ?

Kymmy

07-09-2009 13:28

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But F1 testing ban isn't about technical issues or spectators, it's purely about cutting the costs hence allowing more teams the capability to compete..

:rolleyes:

Matty_

07-09-2009 13:55

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I know it`s purely hypothetical but i wonder how Schumie would have gone on if he had have been the one in the driving seat, would he have faired any better than Badoer?

Probably not as bad but i doubt he would have been at the sharp end...

I personally think the testing ban should be left how it is now. If incidents like the Massa one occur then whatever team is affected just has to make the best out of the situation.
Looking forward to finding out what the driver situation will be for next year. Alonso to Ferrari is supposedly a done deal, so who will fill his seat? If Kimi goes, what/where will he drive? Who is going to snap up Kubica? What will be the Mclaren line up?
Can the new teams attract top drivers or will they just get last dibs..

sherer

07-09-2009 14:34

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34868451)

But F1 testing ban isn't about technical issues or spectators, it's purely about cutting the costs hence allowing more teams the capability to compete..

:rolleyes:

the thing is if they had a test at another circuit over the weekend, they could get income from people there to watch the F1 testing, they could then have a non championship F1 race for reserve \ GP2 drivers and the F1 drivers could meet the fans. PLus they could sell it to TV too and make more money.

To spend the amount the day for 18 races and 4 tests a year is a bit of a waste.

hedgie

07-09-2009 14:54

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Lets face it the teams want to test, the Badoer/Massa situation shows that new drivers need time in the seat. Doing the mileage when you are already at the circuit should be very cost effective.

Turkey Machine

07-09-2009 22:58

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Liuzzi has to basically show Sutil up, and vice versa, to prove they're worthy F1 drivers. Sutil's been outclassed the last couple of races by Fisichella, and now Fisi's jumped from one of the best cars on the grid to one of the best cars on the grid with KERS. At Monza.

hedgie

11-09-2009 11:38

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End of the first session as Fisi is quicker than Kimi :D. No idea what "programmes" they were running but even so he is there or thereabouts.

Liuzzi is 1.2 off Sutil more to come I suspect.

Hoping for a good race, although it looks like the McLarens could disappear off into the distance.

Lets see...

Kymmy

11-09-2009 11:41

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Fisi though has had regular racing, Liuzzi hasn't, it's a shame really

Turkey Machine

11-09-2009 12:16

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Them Force India's are the only realistic challengers to the McLarens I reckon. Brawns are playing it safe at the moment, and Red Bull are just plain slow. Vettel's also got reduced running because of his limited engines. Toyota have problems riding the kerbs and need that sorted for their 2010 car, as it will not be competitive otherwise.

Incidentally, just watched the classic highlights of the 1988 Italian GP. Lesmo 1 and 2 are absolutely flat out.

hedgie

11-09-2009 12:17

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I suspect Luzzi will be at least five places up come Saturday afternoon. I think he has a natural ability.

Kymmy

11-09-2009 13:02

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Current headline on the BBC site

Quote:

Renault to launch Piquet lawsuit
Renault say they are launching legal action against Nelson Piquet Jr and his father Nelson Piquet over race-fixing allegations made against the team.

The team are accused of plotting with Piquet Jr to crash during last year's Singapore Grand Prix to aid team-mate Fernando's Alonso's path to victory.

Renault says the criminal proceedings being launched in France concern "the making of false allegations".

They also refer to a "related attempt to blackmail the team".

More to follow.

SnoopZ

11-09-2009 13:59

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34870862)

Current headline on the BBC site

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8250436.stm

Kymmy

12-09-2009 11:33

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Murray Walker?? Practicing for a possible comeback to commentating??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8251527.stm

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