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denphone 10-03-2023 10:34
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147855)
When filling in the forms, make sure you put how difficult things are, as my wife (who used to be a DM before she retired) said that too many people tried to be "brave" on the forms (it’s not that bad), and they have to score on what’s on the form (there are QC checks).

tldr: better to over-egg the pudding - put your condition(s) and abilities on your worst day, not your best.
Good advice there Hugh.

Jaymoss 10-03-2023 10:35
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147855)
When filling in the forms, make sure you put how difficult things are, as my wife (who used to be a DM before she retired) said that too many people tried to be "brave" on the forms (it’s not that bad), and they have to score on what’s on the form (there are QC checks).

tldr: better to over-egg the pudding - put your condition(s) and abilities on your worst day, not your best.
yeah that is how I did it cheers

tweetiepooh 10-03-2023 10:51
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I'd always be honest on all forms. I've had situations where to answer questions from the other parties doctor. He tried to guide the responses to make me seem worse than I was so he could report that I exaggerated the replies on my forms.

joglynne 10-03-2023 11:04
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36147815)
So my health and ability to look after myself has become more of a problem recently so I have had to make the move and try to claim PIP.

I have always avoided it although on paper I should be able to claim if it was done fairly but it is not. The idea of an assessment and the inevitable need for a mandatory reconsideration and then tribunal causes me anxiety just thinking about it, but I need help with mobility as I have not been able to go further than my front gate this year (and pretty much the last 3 years apart from the odd appointment) and also could do with some help around the house and garden.

It is not really the money I need but the extra support that would come available to me if I manage to claim it
Oh Jay <<<<hugs>>>> I hate seeing people having to go through the all the stress of claiming PIP. Never, ever, ever give them a good day scenario.

Like Hugh's wife I too was once a decision maker, well before PIP, and with certain benefits I just knew some people were downplaying their condition but had to make a judgement on what I had before me and on many occaisions I underlined the option to appeal in pencil in the letter that I had to send out.

One of the main reasons I transfered over to being a DM on serious fraud cases.

peanut 10-03-2023 11:25
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36147864)
I'd always be honest on all forms. I've had situations where to answer questions from the other parties doctor. He tried to guide the responses to make me seem worse than I was so he could report that I exaggerated the replies on my forms.
As long as you've got evidence to back up what you put on the forms then they can't dispute anything. Yes you put everything down as if it's your worse day, that's a given, even though you're still being honest.

You have to look and try to answer every question on the form because they are 'loaded questions' designed to make you fail if you answer them all as the form expects you to. This is one of the main reasons why people fail, that and not supplying enough evidence. The size of the boxes you write your response in are small because they want to you write yes/no or 1 sentence to fit the boxes. You will fail if you comply to that. 1 question should be half a page or more, more the better so ignore the space, just put continued on page xx. etc etc etc.

Jaymoss 10-03-2023 11:38
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36147868)
As long as you've got evidence to back up what you put on the forms then they can't dispute anything. Yes you put everything down as if it's your worse day, that's a given, even though you're still being honest.

You have to look and try to answer every question on the form because they are 'loaded questions' designed to make you fail if you answer them all as the form expects you to. This is one of the main reasons why people fail, that and not supplying enough evidence. The size of the boxes you write your response in are small because they want to you write yes/no or 1 sentence to fit the boxes. You will fail if you comply to that. 1 question should be half a page or more, more the better so ignore the space, just put continued on page xx. etc etc etc.
Evidence is an issue in as much as it is all on record but not in my hands. You can see my issues with your own eyes and I can provide far to many ESA assessments finding me unfit for work on the first visit plus my anti anxiety meds but there is nothing I can provide.

As someone who also suffers clinical depression I have also kept myself isolated. It is only now my health has declined I have no option but to seek 3rd party help. It will be months before anything comes of this so I am trying not to get anxious about it

My mental condition stems from having Encephalitis when I was 6 years old which basically left me susceptible to these conditions and I guess what they would call PTSD now from being physically abused by my mother. So it has been a life long battle. My earlier issues on this forum with how I interacted with a couple of members is also part of it

peanut 10-03-2023 11:46
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36147870)
Evidence is an issue in as much as it is all on record but not in my hands. You can see my issues with your own eyes and I can provide far to many ESA assessments finding me unfit for work on the first visit plus my anti anxiety meds but there is nothing I can provide.

As someone who also suffers clinical depression I have also kept myself isolated. It is only now my health has declined I have no option but to seek 3rd party help. It will be months before anything comes of this so I am trying not to get anxious about it

My mental condition stems from having Encephalitis when I was 6 years old which basically left me susceptible to these conditions and I guess what they would call PTSD now from being physically abused by my mother. So it has been a life long battle. My earlier issues on this forum with how I interacted with a couple of members is also part of it
With my GP practice, I order my prescriptions online using 'SystemOnline' also with this I can look at all my notes from my GP and consultants. Using this I can print out all I need and use as evidence, this really helped my case.

From what I can gather is whatever you put on the forms, if it isn't backed up with evidence it gets ignored. So if you put you have anxiety, if you GP doesn't know this or if it's not 'diagnosed' then you don't have it in their eyes.

If you don't have access, then you can pay to get all your medical notes printed out and use that if it will help.

As with depression, you should be diagnosed and given a proper diagnosis, with a code number. For I have F33.2 and diagnosed. Too many people state they have depression and anxiety but never seen a GP about it let alone a mental health professional, then wonder why what they've said doesn't get taken into account.

Jaymoss 10-03-2023 12:41
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36147873)
With my GP practice, I order my prescriptions online using 'SystemOnline' also with this I can look at all my notes from my GP and consultants. Using this I can print out all I need and use as evidence, this really helped my case.

From what I can gather is whatever you put on the forms, if it isn't backed up with evidence it gets ignored. So if you put you have anxiety, if you GP doesn't know this or if it's not 'diagnosed' then you don't have it in their eyes.

If you don't have access, then you can pay to get all your medical notes printed out and use that if it will help.

As with depression, you should be diagnosed and given a proper diagnosis, with a code number. For I have F33.2 and diagnosed. Too many people state they have depression and anxiety but never seen a GP about it let alone a mental health professional, then wonder why what they've said doesn't get taken into account.
I was first diagnosed with both conditions way back in the early 90s but this was just a Doctors diagnosis. I have had counselling and CBT but tbh my Doctors over the years have been pretty useless in getting me any real diagnosis ie through a Psychiatrist. The last time they tried to "help" I had to call a number then get triaged over the phone which I find unbelievable and ended up in CBT which helped a little but then the pandemic hit and all the good it did quickly vanished. I guess from what you say there then I am pretty much stuffed as far as points for mental health so I guess I will have to hope my physical health will be enough

Dude111 12-03-2023 05:23
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Originally Posted by Tinky
Just had yet another another scam phone call purporting to be from bank security, to notify me that there had been 2 unusual requests for payments from our account. The first was from Amazon for £300 and the second for £1100, to sort this press 1 on your phone to speak to security. :mad:
I would have pressed 1 and given them all bogus info :D

SnoopZ 12-03-2023 11:32
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36148046)
I would have pressed 1 and given them all bogus info :D
You may get charged for pressing 1, never do anything like that.

Tinky 12-03-2023 12:27
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36148070)
You may get charged for pressing 1, never do anything like that.

That's why I didn't press 1

peanut 12-03-2023 14:20
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36147878)
I was first diagnosed with both conditions way back in the early 90s but this was just a Doctors diagnosis. I have had counselling and CBT but tbh my Doctors over the years have been pretty useless in getting me any real diagnosis ie through a Psychiatrist. The last time they tried to "help" I had to call a number then get triaged over the phone which I find unbelievable and ended up in CBT which helped a little but then the pandemic hit and all the good it did quickly vanished. I guess from what you say there then I am pretty much stuffed as far as points for mental health so I guess I will have to hope my physical health will be enough
Judging by Jeremy Hunt's budget, it looks like those with mental health issues and bad backs will be helped (forced) back into looking for work and the usual penalties for those that can't (or won't in their eyes). It's not looking good either ways.

Mr K 12-03-2023 19:44
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Anybody that says they're 'reaching out to you' or says you're 'reaching out to them'. What the feck is all that about and who started it? They need shooting, not 'reaching out' to !

peanut 12-03-2023 19:58
Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36148128)
Anybody that says they're 'reaching out to you' or says you're 'reaching out to them'. What the feck is all that about and who started it? They need shooting, not 'reaching out' to !
"Hands, touching hands...
Reaching out, touching me, touching you..." - All together now....

I bet you're singing it now... :D

GrimUpNorth 12-03-2023 20:26
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Removing old silicone.


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