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denphone 04-10-2022 14:15
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
l would suggest he tender his resignation as its quite clear he is well out of his depth.

jfman 04-10-2022 14:41
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
He didn’t seem that affected by the Queen’s death when he was at the funeral chuckling away in his phone.

Hugh 04-10-2022 14:42
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135975)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2195185.html

Quote:
Kwasi Kwarteng blames ‘pressure’ of Queen’s death for botched mini-budget

Chancellor also sparks fresh confusion over next financial statement, saying: ‘It’s going to be 23 November’ – despite Treasury briefing it has been brought forward

Kwasi Kwarteng has blamed the “pressure” of the Queen’s death for mistakes in the mini-budget which has plunged the Tory party in crisis.

“We had a nation in mourning and then, literally, four days after the funeral we had the mini-budget,” the chancellor said.

“It was a high speed, high pressure environment and we could, as David Cameron used to say, have prepared the pitch a bit better.”

Mr Kwarteng also sparked fresh confusion over his next financial statement, saying: “It’s going to be 23 November,” – despite the Treasury briefing it has been brought forward to October.

And he said the scrapping of the 45p tax rate for top earners has merely been “postponed”, before correcting himself to say: “We have decided not to proceed with it.”
Just thinking about this statement about "high speed, high pressure environment"…

HM died on the 8th, it was announced on the 15th that the mini-budget was going to happen on the 21st and 22nd - any "high pressure environment" was purely self-inflicted…

jfman 04-10-2022 14:57
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135979)
Just thinking about this statement about "high speed, high pressure environment"…

HM died on the 8th, it was announce on the 15th that the mini-budget was going to happen on the 21st and 22nd - any "high pressure environment" was purely self-inflicted…
Given the reaction of the markets, it’s clear they should have proceeded with caution. I wholeheartedly disagree with trickle down economics - it’s been proven time and again to simply not work. But they could have worked the numbers and made the case.

Instead they dived head first into catastrophe. It’s very, very difficult to not reach the conclusion it’s corruption and not ineptitude.

Edit: even better news Rees-Mogg is trying to railroad through fracking England’s green and pleasant land bypassing legal, environmental and public scrutiny.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...king-email-hse

1andrew1 04-10-2022 15:43
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Interesting thread on where the cuts will land: Universal Credit and child credit, saving £4bn. From the Chief Executive of the Resolution Foundation.
https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/stat...97283955277827

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135979)
Just thinking about this statement about "high speed, high pressure environment"…

HM died on the 8th, it was announced on the 15th that the mini-budget was going to happen on the 21st and 22nd - any "high pressure environment" was purely self-inflicted…
Agreed. They had a need to move quickly on the fuel crisis but not the other stuff. That error was entirely of their own making. #WorstPMEver

jfman 04-10-2022 15:52
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36135982)
Interesting thread on where the cuts will land: Universal Credit and child credit, saving £4bn. From the Chief Executive of the Resolution Foundation.
https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/stat...97283955277827

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Agreed. They had a need to move quickly on the fuel crisis but not the other stuff. That error was entirely of their own making. #WorstPMEver
Steady on she’s not lied to either monarch yet, her predecessor only had to be honest with one.

Paul 04-10-2022 16:04
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Come back Boris, all is forgiven :devsmoke:

:erm: :angel:

Hugh 04-10-2022 16:17
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36135982)
Interesting thread on where the cuts will land: Universal Credit and child credit, saving £4bn. From the Chief Executive of the Resolution Foundation.
https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/stat...97283955277827

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Agreed. They had a need to move quickly on the fuel crisis but not the other stuff. That error was entirely of their own making. #WorstPMEver
But that had already been announced on the 8th September…

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...-energy-market

Dave42 04-10-2022 16:22
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135975)
they trying to gaslight us now thinking we all idiots blaming the queens death for his shambles of a budget is truely shocking

1andrew1 04-10-2022 16:48
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36135985)
Steady on she’s not lied to either monarch yet, her predecessor only had to be honest with one.
Ha ha. That's a valid point! Plus Truss lost us £65bn, Johnson lost us 4% of GDP every year with his bad EU deal.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36135990)
they trying to gaslight us now thinking we all idiots blaming the queens death for his shambles of a budget is truely shocking
Not sure they can stoop lower than that, to be honest.

nashville 04-10-2022 17:12
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Time will tell, but so far not too good.

heero_yuy 04-10-2022 17:18
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
I just wonder how people think that a rabble alliance under Starmer would be any better?

1andrew1 04-10-2022 17:27
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36135997)
I just wonder how people think that a rabble alliance under Starmer would be any better?
:D:D:D:

This is the #WorstPMEver. Anyone is an upgrade. Even Johnson.

denphone 04-10-2022 17:29
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36135997)
I just wonder how people think that a rabble alliance under Starmer would be any better?
A nice bit of whataboutery heero as voters are increasingly coming to the conclusion that a safe moderate leader is better then a prime minister without a mandate and a party that is at war with itself.

jfman 04-10-2022 17:33
Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36135997)
I just wonder how people think that a rabble alliance under Starmer would be any better?
:rofl:

Really? A ramshackle cabinet of me, Seph, Pierre, den, Andrew, Mick and Paul could do a better job. Despite being able to command agreement on absolutely nothing.


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