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I await the results with increasing hilarity :D

Wish they'd mass test all factories, then you'd see panic ;)

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Isn't Cable Forum under the banner of Social Media? Right you are!

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And has the same people consistently spouting misinformation, for the benefit of people unknown. Spot on, Pierre.

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Sorry to be very late with an answer (I have a sick kid at the moment)

What you are saying is broadly right. An older person who shakes of other viral diseases is thought to be more likely to have a better immune response.

The effectiveness of shaking off a bug is related to the persons general health and nutrition along with the health of the immune system. As we age, there is an effect called immunosenescence which is the aging of the immune system. This affects both cellular and humoral immunity. Cellular immunity is the ‘T-cell response’ broadly. This can be specific or non-specific. Non specific is where a cell says it is infected and says ‘help’ to the immune system, bringing in cells that will kill the infected cell and cause inflammation. After infection, you get specific responses where immune cells will remember the infected cells.

Humoral immunity are the antibodies. These are made by another group of immune cells called B cells.

Both T and B cells have the same precursor (haematopoietic stem cells) so as these cells age, this can impact the whole immune system. Therefore, your ‘cellular age’ is important. As the immune system ages, both the quantity and quality of the cells will drop, along with the antibodies they produce in the case of B cells. Some people age gracefully, some wither. It’s the same for the immune system.

Immunology is very complicated which is why I became a microbiologist. Much simpler....

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Nope. Forums have existed far longer, before 'Social Media' was a thing.
CF is older than Facebook, Twitter or Instagram, its even a week older than MySpace. :D

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Oh I know, I remember back to the Nthellword days. We were pioneers or for our friends from Wigan, Pie in here!

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No need to panic anyway ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54779499

:D

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Another so called expert talking out of his arse and forcing a lockdown that isn't even needed. :rolleyes:

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The only 'expert' I've ever taken notice of, was my dear old mum.

With that look on her face and a slipper in her hand, you listened closely . . . or else :D

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There is too much FUD flying around and it's making the public allow too much power to be wielded too easily by those in charge.

Covid is a threat and needs to be dealt with and the public do have their part to play which if they had done we may not have needed a second lockdown.

But very little is promoted about the risks to the healthy population. The NHS England figures for death within 28 days of positive Covid test with no (known) underlying condition is low.

Total deaths no pre-existing condition = 1,491, if below 60 it's 315.
With pre-existing condition it's 30,993, if below 60 it's 2,391.

The big jumps are in the older population above 60 (nearly there) but that group could be skewed to the upper end more than other groups.

So while we do need to take action we must be careful not to allow government to ride over our freedoms easily or set precedent to allow erosion of those freedoms for "future threats".

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They're private premises and absolutely entitled to decide who comes in.

In the case of limiting numbers of people from each household, I suspect it's to make it harder for panic buyers from the same household to go round in packs filling multiple trolleys and defeating quantity restrictions.

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Sainsbury's have the same suggestion but I don't think it's rigorously enforced.

Probably to limit the number of people in the store. More people more transmission and more difficult to keep social distancing.

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