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nomadking 03-03-2015 17:02

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As usual these are just the main organisers. The "clients" when the girls were trafficked around the country are rarely prosecuted. That skews the conviction numbers by seriously understating them. Has anyone figured out how the find the "clients"?

joglynne 03-03-2015 18:01

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The dark web?

The trouble is that onions have many skins and although sites could be closed down many of the users remain anonymous.

nomadking 03-03-2015 18:15

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35762803)
The dark web?

The trouble is that onions have many skins and although sites could be closed down many of the users remain anonymous.

That might help in arranging "events", but not in finding "clients" of the "right" type. Advertise a "service" too widely and you risk stumbling upon somebody that will tell the police. The "clients" seem to have specific criteria beyond that of having certain interests.

joglynne 03-03-2015 19:34

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There are many ways these creeps find each other and the investigators trying to track them down face a wall of silence which they have to manipulate their way through using many tools and skills. I do know how hard one internet orientated team works and how hard it is for them to see what they come across. They have my utmost respect, I know it's not something I could do.

greeninferno 03-03-2015 19:59

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"They [the men] used to pick girls up outside social services offices on the Cowley Road, if that doesn't say something then I don't know what does."
the dregs of humanity

and that is just the police and social services in this country.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion...ia-in-pakistan

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Child abuse is not recognised as abuse by some traditional interpretations. For example, underage marriages are a common phenomenon in our society, without taking into consideration that the children are not fully developed and intercourse can cause physical damage. The resolution passed in parliament against child marriages under the Prohibition of Child Marriages Act was considered un-Islamic by the Council for Islamic Ideology (CII). The CII stated that Islam does not establish any age for marriage, except that the child has to have reached the age of puberty.
Just away of life for these sick *******s.

Russ 22-04-2015 17:12

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In the interests of balance and fairness, not to mention it's the first time I've ever seen anything like this reported in the media....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...g-live-5564454

nomadking 22-04-2015 19:31

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35773235)
In the interests of balance and fairness, not to mention it's the first time I've ever seen anything like this reported in the media....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...g-live-5564454

There are important differences. They were spread widely across the country, ie Wilthsire, Hampshire, Bedfordshire, Manchester, Somerset, Hull and East Sussex. It wasn't just a matter of asking the person next to them. That for me is the scary aspect of the "Asian" gangs. The fact that there was an extremely high probability that somebody they knew was either willing to take part or at least look the other way.

Russ 18-05-2015 20:54

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Oh look, another Asian sex gang in court.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ast-60-5717785

Gary L 18-05-2015 21:18

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35778688)
Oh look, another Asian sex gang in court.

At the rate these are happening and how many are involved each time. a lot of people are going to be talking about Asian men.

ianch99 18-05-2015 21:41

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35778688)
Oh look, another Asian sex gang in court.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ast-60-5717785

and your point is what?

Chris 18-05-2015 22:19

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35778695)
and your point is what?

The point made throughout this thread is that Asian gangs seem to be responsible for these crimes, out of all proportion to the size of the Asian population of this country.

That could be because police are victimising them and ignoring white rape gangs, or it could be that, for some reason, something in the Asian community makes it more likely that their men think forming a rape gang is an acceptable thing to do.

ianch99 18-05-2015 22:30

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35778707)
The point made throughout this thread is that Asian gangs seem to be responsible for these crimes, out of all proportion to the size of the Asian population of this country.

That could be because police are victimising them and ignoring white rape gangs, or it could be that, for some reason, something in the Asian community makes it more likely that their men think forming a rape gang is an acceptable thing to do.

If the media focus on a single ethnic group for a particular crime type then they must be very, very certain of the facts. They are playing with fire if they get it wrong ..

Having said that, the Asian community should come out and say what they are doing about this kind of behaviour within their community. This would display a positive message which it seems is needed here ..

Pierre 18-05-2015 22:38

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35778695)
and your point is what?

That goes down as the most stupid post I have read on this forum in many a month.

ianch99 18-05-2015 23:00

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35778714)
That goes down as the most stupid post I have read on this forum in many a month.

I'd start with your own

nomadking 18-05-2015 23:36

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35778707)
The point made throughout this thread is that Asian gangs seem to be responsible for these crimes, out of all proportion to the size of the Asian population of this country.

That could be because police are victimising them and ignoring white rape gangs, or it could be that, for some reason, something in the Asian community makes it more likely that their men think forming a rape gang is an acceptable thing to do.

The Police are identifying the behaviour of the VICTIMS and that leads them to the perpetrators. They are NOT looking at Asians and then looking for victims.

The figures are even MORE out of proportion as it is only a fraction of the men involved that tend to be convicted. They are trafficked(ie pimped) around. The figures could easily be out by a factor of TEN OR MORE.
Eg Rochdale 9 convictions but
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At least one victim forced to have sex with 20 men in one night, police say


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