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Surprised because the club is Chelsea and they weren't under any real obligation to sell. He is surprised for the same reason everyone else is surprised.

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Not sure he was under any obligation to sell Ashley Cole...

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He's not gone yet...But he apparently wants to, so that's the only reason we'd sell him. Same as De Bruyne last week. If they want out it's pointless keeping them. In an ideal world it would have been better to sell him to a team in another country. Nobody else have made a bid it seems.

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Well he wanted to go, there was the tiff with Chelsea over the alleged tapping up and Arsenal needed the money with the stadium arriving. Still, that was 10 years ago. Wenger was asked a question and answered it. That's all that happened. He wasn't even mean.

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Bit rich coming from a scouse fan

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Yes Sunderland still have a treble on, fa cup, league cup and relegation :D

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lies!

http://www.london24.com/sport/arsena...talk_1_3236932

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The guys on strike after the Juve swap joke

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And Mata wants to go as he can't break in to the 1st team this year and wants to be in contention for the World Cup.

Yes he answered a question, no doubt about that. It's just his answer doesn't make sense when you consider what he's talking about (Mourinho selling to a rival) is something Wenger has done more than any of the other top PL teams.

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Has he ever done it in January?

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Not sure about that but I can't see him making any reference to it.

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:LOL: It seems Jose has responded to Wenger

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Mourinho: 'Wenger complaining [about Mata transfer] is normal because he always does'

hahaha

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I suspect the issue of players changing teams in the same league mid-season might be looked at for next year so that players are 'league-tied' in the same way they're cup tied. I also think they need to stop loans within the same league as well as City and Chelsea have cottoned onto the idea of buying some great players and then loaning them out to teams in the same league.

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Why as in my mind that's a restriction of trade as l see it and you will never stop that in a month of Sunday's.

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This happens in other leagues so why should we be different.

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Its alright as we can excuse Arsene some grumpy moment's as he approaches pensioner age.:argue:;)

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Careful, that ageist remark is worthy of a red rep but as I never give them out you will just have to put up with a written reprimand.:sniper: :)

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The whole concept of players belonging to a club to whom a large fee is needed if you wish to secure their services is a restriction too. This is football. The NFL does it. They have a much healthier approach to their league IMO.

We should be different because it creates a situation where clubs can stockpile great players, loan them out, and having a case where the league is stronger for everyone but them. Chelsea's rivals have to face a Everton team with Lukaku and Chelsea do not.

Wenger simply answered a question with the same opinion as everyone else had. They were surprised Mata has being sold to United.

This is someone being grumpy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...lwzIFhkA#t=131

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A bit of banter never hurt anybody.:D

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But we are not the NFL for a start and why change a system that has been successful for so many years and just because someone moans they or others want us to change the system.

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One suspects people would not be moaning if the boot was on the other foot and its just sour grapes to moan about what your rivals are doing.

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Because if we can find a better system then we should move to it and it's a relatively new phenomenon that clubs can loan out excellent players to their rivals. It's been discussed before and it's going to come up again.

Also we should be open to ideas from other successful leagues. Although the draft system is not possible in the Premier League it's a great example of an attempt to level the playing field. I would support wage caps and a draft system to make the PL a lot more competitive. However it wouldn't work because players would be poached by the European clubs.

It's not moaning. He expressed an opinion after being asked a direct question. A manager can't talk in anything other than PR friendly soundbites and must not dare express a single opinion, even if it's one expressed by others as well. The kind of bland football you people want is depressing. Imagine how unhappy Bill Shankly and Bryan Clough would have made you lot.

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England among top seeds with Germany and Spain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25882613

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The loan clause of 'cant play against owner club' needs to be shot of, that I agree with but league-tie a player? if x player has faced a team in the league home and away then that player cannot play a further game against that side in the league for another side? thats interesting. Still though Wenger needs to snap up a striker.

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Mata won't be unveiled until Monday according to the Mirror.

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Nah. Too many rules.

I think they should have transfers all year round. This window thing is daft. It inflates prices.

Who cares who is in team.

Next it will be, if you played a team on a sunday, other teams must do the same etc. The world is going crazy

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:LOL: :tu:

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Rules are fine. They ensure the competitiveness of the sport. I think there should be one transfer window and the team with which you start is the one with which you should end.

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Yeah one window ten months or so long, just like it used to be

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:LOL: now

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+1

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Canavis agents may be putting on little pressure but I don't believe hes actually up for sale or Chelsea wouldn't be dealing with Utd. would be kind of funny seeing Utd get done over if PSG do a last minute deal. not that id be laughing too long with the thought of Canavi in a Chelsea shirt :(

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My my l wonder which manager will be next to moan.:rolleyes:

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Thierry Henry is on the Graham Norton show tonight :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/01/13.jpg

That after Arsenal vs Coventry :)

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Man Utd have chance of winning Premier League

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25885643

Sorry Sir Alex but you are having a laugh.:rofl::rofl:

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:LOL: some floodlights go out and the crowd add a brilliant touch

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/01/10.jpg

had the looks of the Coldplay concerts, Chris Martin must be thrilled seeing that :D

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YES! :D

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The Mata deal has just been confirmed.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...juan-mata.aspx

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hmmm.. does that goal count then? Arsenals 4th, Santi Cazorla. Giroud had to move his body or the ball would have hit him. not sure if he was in an offside position but he was also well away from the keeper... ?

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If it was similar to that Newcastle goal that got disallowed then it should be disallowed tonight for Arsenal. Otherwise it is a case of hypocrisy.

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It wasnt an exact copy of what happened between Newcastle and City but there did seem to be comparisons. not sure it'll get looked it though.

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btw if you've missed it here > http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35665781

Andy Gray to replace Owen tomorrow on commentary duty :tu:

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Wenger coy on transfers and slips up when asked on his own contract, 'yea..' ;)

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press room post match, on Draxler
I hope he's lying :(

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The Mirror are reporting that United have made a bid for Luke Shaw

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...8#.UuLuNrRFDIU

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I doubt Utd have a chance signing him unless they offer an unbelievable package. Chelsea all but have him signed up.

will he have fitness issues hitting 30's ?

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Not bad, if true. But we still need a midfielder...

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I was at the game today. Friday night football rocks! They should do it more often. Great reception for the protesting Coventry fans too.

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Indeed anybody is better then hearing the dreadful Michael Owen.:tu:

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Anyone is better than Owen maybe but Andy Gray is testing that theory.....

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There were times when Andy Gray was annoying, but I'd rather him than Owen.

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Thing with Gray is his post-game analysis was woeful and you only need to look at how Neville does it to show what we put up with for years.

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Julian Draxler aims to seal £36m move to Arsenal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...o-Arsenal.html

Oh dear Mr Wenger is a hypocrite.:rolleyes:

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I think i read he's a Chelsea fan as well? I expect he will go there.

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How is he a hypocrite? He thinks the window shouldn't open in January but he hasn't been opposed to people using the rules when they're there. That is if this story is even true.

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Watching Paul Merson on soccer saturday, think hes back on the coke. Calling Mata a panic buy!? I hope we make some more, similar panic buys like that.

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The fee.

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I think he made a valid point, buying capaye...would be better for Man utd.

That presumes of course that moyes isn't planning for the loss of rooney.

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are you Joe Kinnear in disguise ?

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he could be useful but a word of caution. he was getting poor ratings in the Milan team but that could somewhat be forgiven for the dysfunctional state the club is in, was in.

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Watford 2-0 up at City :shocked:

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City will come back. :(

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Well they have one back already.

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I'm happy with nocerino, he's solid, always liked him at Palermo and.juventus..

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Man City come back from two nil down.:(

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Thank gawd!!!!!!

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Damn it! William Hill had Aguero 10/1 for a hat trick today, i had £10 ready to bet and decided against it at the last minute...

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You should have gone to see Oldham instead iadom. Sounds like that was some game!

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The tackle on bale was a sore one...brought tears to my eyes

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Oh how nice not to hear Michael Owen.:cleader::cleader:

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Terrible for Oviedo :(

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best wishes to him.

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Done and dusted http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...ampaign=ManUtd

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Moyes IN

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Panic buy! Moyes out!

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As good a player as Mata is, we still have a gaping hole in midfield. My view of Moyes has not improved.

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be interesting to see where United play Mata

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It obviously made sense - someone who wasn't being played got sold with almost £15m profit. It was a good piece of business for them.

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It is still is all very weird. I can't quite understand why Chelsea seemed fine with this deal when they didn't want to sell him to PSG just a few months ago. Maybe it does make some sense for them in meeting FFP, which would be an good sign, but Manchester City will probably be the ones to test and break FFP anyway and I imagine Chelsea will then follow suit along with everyone else once that happens.

Maybe the size of the bid and a perception that it isn't what United need most that made them willing to do the deal. Maybe it leaves less money for a big signing where United are weak but if United are willing to go beyond £20 million for Luke Shaw then transfer funds are clearly not a problem for Moyes. Hell rumours are Rooney will get nearer £300,000 a week!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKfV4TU1kI

funny WHAT'S THE MATA - MAN U, HEY note did not post video in here as swearing in it so just link

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Thats an interesting one. After missing out on Ozil there were reports everywhere in France that Mata was top of PSGs list. Ozil cost 42m£. May be Chelsea didnt want to strengthen them further like Arsenal ? or it may just have been Chelsea need of depth, Jose did bang on about needing a proper squad for all comps.

Man City get bank rolled by Mansours empire. What has Roman got to bank roll via 'third party' ?

Utd need a CL spot or they could face a squeeze at a time of needing to rebuild.

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Man City have no issues with FFP. What evidence do you have that they do?

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In one sense it is. But a buy most would like in their team.

This is the opposite of the summer, where they prevaricated and made bids for players they were unlikely to get (particularly at the amounts they offered).

They seem to be looking for more players now, which makes for an interesting window

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Indeed it will Dave.

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Well, this is my interest in the FA Cup done for this season. Will still be watching the draw later though, hoping Arsenal get Chelski in the next round.

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Or Mourinho is still desperate to stay friendly with united ;)

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I don't think you can ever call signing a proven, world class player as a panic buy. Maybe if it's the only signing we make it could be considered a little panicky otherwise I don't buy that idea.

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I base that on two points. Man Utd needed to do something, or the season could potentially get worse. And the current assessment is that Mata is duplicating what you have (someone to play behind the striker), whilst a more out and out central midfielder is needed.

But...I did say..in one sense it is,,,hence my clarifying comments.

And, it is a player lots of clubs would like, my other caveat.

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I don't see Mourinho wanting to stay friendly with Man Utd...why would he?

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If Stevenage had got that early goal then it might have been more of a match Mark.

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I wouldn't call him a panic buy - Fellaini was that. Yes United desperately need another Keane/Scholes/Cantona but firepower was also needed. I'm still unconvinced by Welbeck, Hernandez has never shown the form from 2010, Januzaj is still developing and RVP has not been the player he was last season. Yes Rooney has been our best player so far but you've seen what happens when he's out of the team for any length of time.

So while Mata isn't the key signing Moyes needs, he IS a good signing and will benefit the team although the deal does have a feel of "Look, here's a big name" to it. Which is fine by me in this case.

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I never said he wasn't a good player. I just questioned whether the purchase was a planned one. Perhaps a opportunistic purchase might be closer to the truth.

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You can have a panic buy of a good player - although not in the same 'league' as it were, Fellaini is a good player.

I think the purchase was planned - United tried to get him during the summer. Perhaps they were waiting for assurances from Rooney before making the move.

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A panic buy that springs to mind has to be the Andy Carroll one by Liverpool and Mata has been trailed by several big clubs for the last 6 months so l would not regard it as a panic buy but a opportunity that opened itself up quickly.

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I don't see what's hard to understand about Mata going now and not last summer. Since then he's not played as much as he wanted to, he asked to leave, and that's it basically. The same with De Bruyne, Essien and Bertrand on loan to Villa. I would have loved them all to stay and fight for their places, but as I've said before, if they want out let them go. No point keeping an unhappy player, no matter who he is. Being a World Cup year plays a part in their decision as well, but I don't believe there's a club manager anywhere that would pick someone just so they can make a countries squad.

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I still think United is his dream job and he still holds hope he will get it one day.

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Fabio is off to Cardiff http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25903634

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lol..ok

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I wouldn't call it his dream job but I reckon he hopes to be the manager at some point.

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Personally l think MU supporters are clutching at straws if they think Mourinho will go to MU now as they had their chance to get him but alas they listened to too many of the wrong people around the club and have missed the boat.

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I would be surprised if he ever goes to Man Utd, and only speculation that he would have taken it if offered.

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haha

Man City vs Chelsea

Arsenal vs Liverpool

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I was thinking about Man city vs chelsea...and it happened :D

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Ha ha too?

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Well at least its not like the set draws they have in the European competitions.:D

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haha @ both giant ties. who did Utd get?

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That is how a draw should be, I hate manipulated draws. if i had my way, teams from same league could be drawn earlier in the champions league. I prefer luck of the draw.

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I think they got a home game..watching on the tv :D

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what about Tottenham?

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happy with our draw we at home and couple top teams going out come on Sunderland

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:shocked:Forest or Preston at home if they beat Fulham. :p:

Arsenal will play Liverpool twice plus United and Bayern in the space of 11 days.:shocked:

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Arsenal need a qaulity striker. Arsenal have 1 working week to get it done.

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Yes we need a couple of players as well.