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Cobbydaler 29-09-2006 22:13

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Fascinating Bauhaus archive here...

Cobbydaler 30-09-2006 19:47

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For people who like Banksy there's some more stencil street art here...

Cobbydaler 10-10-2006 13:18

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A couple more Trompe L'oeil painted rooms...

No idea who the artists are...

cookie_365 10-10-2006 18:17

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Anyone had a go on the slides yet?

Cobbydaler 10-10-2006 18:21

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What's it say under my name? ;)

No, not yet....

Do you think it's just to get more kids into Tate Modern? ;)

cookie_365 10-10-2006 21:17

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34134177)
What's it say under my name? ;)

No, not yet....

Do you think it's just to get more kids into Tate Modern? ;)

Well, more big kids at least ;)

And if a PR bod says it's art, who am I to argue? :)

Maggy 10-10-2006 23:37

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Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34134329)
Well, more big kids at least ;)

And if a PR bod says it's art, who am I to argue? :)

Why shouldn't you argue.If public money gets spent on it you should have every right to an opinion.Art is subjective and no one person has the right to tell anyone else that their taste is wrong..

It's why I hate that Trinny and whatits show.Who the hell gave them permission to judge what people should and shouldn't wear.:mad:

We really should stop giving folk permission to look down their noses at us and say we have no taste and have no legitimate reason to have an opinion on all forms of art.Why do people think everyone should like what they like?I love Shakespeare but I know there are lots who don't and I don't think any the less of them for doing so.

Mind I'll also defend your right to have no opinion at all because not every picture/statue/poem/novel will affect us in the same way.;)

cookie_365 11-10-2006 18:24

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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34134504)
Why shouldn't you argue.If public money gets spent on it you should have every right to an opinion.Art is subjective and no one person has the right to tell anyone else that their taste is wrong..

It's why I hate that Trinny and whatits show.Who the hell gave them permission to judge what people should and shouldn't wear.:mad:

We really should stop giving folk permission to look down their noses at us and say we have no taste and have no legitimate reason to have an opinion on all forms of art.Why do people think everyone should like what they like?I love Shakespeare but I know there are lots who don't and I don't think any the less of them for doing so.

Mind I'll also defend your right to have no opinion at all because not every picture/statue/poem/novel will affect us in the same way.;)

Erm, I actuall do think it's art, although I'm not 100% sure why :) And of course I love Trinny & Suzannah - for exactly the same reason you hate them!

Cobbydaler 24-10-2006 20:16

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It is Art, but is it plagiarism?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cobbyda...true_daisy.jpg

A biiger image of the one on the left may make the comparison easier...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cobbyda...ges/valium.jpg

Unfortunately I can't find a larger image of the one on the right...

Do you think they could have been conceived totally independently, 15 years apart?

Both pieces of art have exactly the same number of dots...

CycoSymz 24-10-2006 20:41

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Both pieces of art have exactly the same number of dots...
You have entirely too much free time on your hands. LOL

homealone 24-10-2006 21:24

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at first I thought it might be a variation on the '4 colour theorem', but there are more than 4 colours :dunce:

it reminds me of the pages used to test if you are colour blind.

In my opinion I can't decide whether mathematically generated graphics are 'art', or not - I don't mean rendered stuff, which requires the artist to design the framework, but things like fractals, which can be beautiful, but are 'lifeless'???

Cobbydaler 24-10-2006 21:29

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Well, the coloured one is Damien Hirst, and I don't think he's recognised as using computers to generate his art...

It's claimed he traced it, as it's an exact reversed image of the black & white one...

See here...

homealone 24-10-2006 21:47

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34143809)
Well, the coloured one is Damien Hirst, and I don't think he's recognised as using computers to generate his art...

It's claimed he traced it, as it's an exact reversed image of the black & white one...

See here...

which quotes

Mr Dixon’s original drawing was based on a mathematical model inspired by his extensive study of a daisy, the natural pattern of which is different from any known concentric pattern in art or architecture. After some time trying to draw the pattern by traditional means, he drew it on a computer.

:)

so it was a 'coloured in' copy of a computer generated image - not 'art', as I would define it - if people are prepared to engage with that, then I am not going to say they are wrong, I just don't agree with them. :)

Maggy 24-10-2006 22:14

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Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34143814)
which quotes

Mr Dixon’s original drawing was based on a mathematical model inspired by his extensive study of a daisy, the natural pattern of which is different from any known concentric pattern in art or architecture. After some time trying to draw the pattern by traditional means, he drew it on a computer.

:)

so it was a 'coloured in' copy of a computer generated image - not 'art', as I would define it - if people are prepared to engage with that, then I am not going to say they are wrong, I just don't agree with them. :)

Well he certainly didn't hand trace it even with a lightbox.

I think it's the usual case of failed artist having a case of sour grapes and wanting to make some dosh.I personally regard niether of them as being particularly original.I bet if we all went digging we could find that the so called original had been 'copied' from somewhere else or based on another picture.

lauzjp 24-10-2006 22:28

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is 'it' art? I think everything is a work of art. Someone, be it God, nature, man, or machine created 'it' and that I admire - whether I find it pleasing is another matter entirely! :scratch:


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