Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189489)

Reform failed in both council by-elections yesterday.

They’ve won just 7 council seats from 179 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Impressive stuff….

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189997)

I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189319)

In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189322)

That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

To date, he's been very keen to put a clean line between his political parties and the BNP. He's also not supported Tommy Robinson to any great extent; compare his considered approach with that of Musk and other lesser-informed right-wingers.

It was interesting briefly watching the Reform UK Conference in Surrey on YouTube last week. The comments were flooded with supporters berating the Party for not coming out in whole-hearted support for Tommy Robinson. I suspect that Farage knows he'll still have these supporters backing him though.

Farage needs to keep his party as clean as possible if he's going into an electoral pact with the Conservative Party and potentially power in the next election. If that means falling out with Musk and foregoing Musk's money and influence then so be it. Farage understands how our electoral system works and Musk understands how space rockets work. But not vice versa.

I'm afraid that Cameron could well have opened Pandora's box.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189997)

I’ll say.

5 Council By-Elections during the week.

Reform UK failed to win any.

They’ve won only 7 seats from 184 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

This means nothing.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36190016)

I doubt we ever will.



Given the wall to wall media about the ‘rise’ of the party, I think it says more than you realise.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

I don’t think you understand. Farage is looking to the next council elections with his newly selected candidates in a major push that will give the electorate more confidence to vote for them nationally in 2029.

The figures you have just quoted are irrelevant.

The party hasn’t started yet, and you are a party pooper.

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You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Not true. They just need to build up their party member base in every constituency, which I think is entirely possible. Live and learn.

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I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

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This means nothing. The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

I don’t think he will win the Conservative Party over. It’s more likely that the right wing of the Conservative Party may defect to Farage, strengthening his position in that way.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190010)

The real test will be the next council elections. If they fail then, I will agree with your sentiments.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36190085)

If they were going to defect, it's likely they would have done so by now.

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I think that's a fair call, they're effectively a start-up Party without the infrastructure of the traditional parties.

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36190108)

Reform cannot be currently seen as a serious political party. Just look at its structure and who "owns" it. The current Leader spends most of his time in the US trying to be relevant to Trump and the Deputy Leader spends half of his time in Dubai where his partner has moved to. Of course both of these two are MP's whose constituents are all probably wondering WTF is going on.

As for Tice, there is a delicious irony over him, his partner and their stated views on immigrants :)

Dubai-based Oakeshott laments immigrants in London

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36190119)

Apparently Nigel can't hold surgeries as it's not safe because of people with knives, it is however perfectly safe to spend all that time in America getting brushed off by donnie where they have guns :shrug:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190127)

Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190127)

Given that they are such a non starter, seem to generate a lot of flack