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Hugh	15-10-2024 10:14

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36184339)

If that was really the case, then Labour would've released the figures.
Still waiting for this to start.
A message from Prime Minister Keir Starmer to the Civil Service

Do you mean the figures that were in the in the HM Treasury report (Fixing the foundations: Public spending audit 2024-25) and then confirmed in the Office for Budget Review review letter, both dated 29th July 2024?

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...t-2024-25-html

https://obr.uk/docs/dlm_uploads/Lett...ure-limits.pdf

nomadking

15-10-2024 10:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36184340)

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meant that public spending on pay is expected to be around £11-12 billion higher

Still not a £22bn unknown "black hole". Just an explanation of KNOWN costs plus the extra wage rises. That's before you add in the possible public sector employer NI increases.

Pierre

15-10-2024 10:50

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36184334)

So where else would you get the £22 billion from,? The NHS, increase income tax or vat, cut disability benefits? Cutting employee national insurance was a pre election desperate Tory tax bribe that we couldn't afford. Now we have to pay for their incompetence.

Get rid of all the so called "asylum seekers", that's £4-5 billion straight away.

Hugh	15-10-2024 11:39

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36184341)

Still not a £22bn unknown "black hole". Just an explanation of KNOWN costs plus the extra wage rises. That's before you add in the possible public sector employer NI increases.

The second paragraph in the first links clarifies that - the £22 billion forecast overspend was not in the March 6th Budget figures - March the departmental budgets were forecast to be £nnn billion, the Treasury audit in July showed the forecast spend was £nnn billion + £22 billion.

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The audit carried out by the Treasury shows that the forecast overspend on departmental spending is expected to be £21.9 billion above the resource departmental expenditure limit (RDEL) totals set by the Treasury at Spring Budget 2024

nomadking

15-10-2024 12:28

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36184343)

Still not seeing where this £22bn of hidden spending has come from, other than the larger public sector pay increases. Everything else was known.

papa smurf

15-10-2024 13:08

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36184345)

Still not seeing where this £22bn of hidden spending has come from, other than the larger public sector pay increases. Everything else was known.

it's cleary not the money Huge is posting about as that was forcast and visible

nomadking

15-10-2024 13:22

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Whatever way you look at it, any claim of a £22bn black hole came BEFORE any(including this) report.

Hugh	15-10-2024 15:31

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It literally came from the outcomes of the audit this document is reporting on, and it was announced to the House on the 29th July.

The Executive Summary

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On 8 July, the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced that she had instructed Treasury officials to undertake a rapid audit of public spending. This document sets out the outcome of the audit, the immediate action the government is taking in response, and the long-term measures being introduced to restore public spending control.

The audit carried out by the Treasury shows that the forecast overspend on departmental spending is expected to be £21.9 billion above the resource departmental expenditure limit (RDEL) totals set by the Treasury at Spring Budget 2024

Pierre

16-10-2024 09:53

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this article from the IFS explains it well.

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/ps22bn-b...who-dared-look

Hugh	16-10-2024 11:56

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184380)

this article from the IFS explains it well.

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/ps22bn-b...who-dared-look

That’s a nice earner for someone…

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nearly 50,000 are being put up in hotels at a staggering cost of £3 billion a year.

£165 per night for long-term Holiday Inn Express level hotels, which normally have a rack-rate of £60-£100 per night?

https://www.thetimes.com/article/c06...681860c2a0fa80

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The cost to the taxpayer of housing a asylum seeker is between £127 and £148 a day — a total daily bill of £8 million. The investigation found that hotel owners receive between £40 and £80, with the rest going to the middlemen companies.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1729075894

Paul	28-10-2024 01:21

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It doesnt get any better for labour, another of their MPs in trouble.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6244gk9d4po

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Labour suspends MP after CCTV appears to show him punching man

Damien

28-10-2024 06:55

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He's screwed, that's a by-election.

papa smurf

28-10-2024 08:33

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36184963)

He's screwed, that's a by-election.

Another seat for reform?

Damien

28-10-2024 08:39

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Could well be, they're in 2nd, it's a by-election so more of a protest vote....

Kursk

28-10-2024 13:05

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It won’t be the last sucker punch thrown by Labour.

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