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On that premise it's a very tricky one to call, I could see Jenrick squeezing in but what a dreadful choice to have to make.

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Sir Keir will be readying the champagne. He's in need of some good news and this contest is not disappointing.

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It looks like Cleverly had the numbers but his supporters tried to play games about who went though to face him.

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One of the bigwigs was on The World At One yesterday warning them against doing exactly that thing. I think they knew this was a risk, and his warning was that there were too few Tory MPs presently in Westminster for that to be a sensible strategy - it was always going to come down to a small handful of votes one way or the other. It seems some of them failed to heed the warning.

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Lol, puppets!

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It’s irrelevant who is the leader of the opposition at this time, I’d like to see Badenoch get it, just for the hell of it.

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It’s a story as old as time. A party gets voted out of government and does some navel gazing as to how this could have happened. It seems the conclusion each time is that they weren’t left or right wing enough. See Michael Foots Labour, William Hague and Iain Duncan Smiths Conservatives, Labour under Jeremy Corbyn (there was a Milliband intermission there)

The Conservative Party did well under the one nation conservatism of David Cameron, Theresa May and arguably Boris Johnson but parties never learn.

Eventually, opposition parties drift back to the centre and I am sure the Conservatives will again. I would be very surprised if either Kemi Badenoch or Robert Jenrick will be in place to fight the next general election

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Out of the 3 of them my view is that Badenoch is the best one to be facing them from the opposition benches.

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looks like cleverly supporters out clevered themselves :)

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I think she'll be the best commons performer but I am not sure if she'll be the best in terms of elections.

She is very good at speaking to the Tory base and picking fights with the left, but that alienates many voters. Her comments on maternity pay may have 'triggered' the left but also moderate voters.

She risks being the Tories' version of Corbyn. Very popular with the base, ideologically different to the opposition but not speaking to the wider country.

But who knows? How you pander to members can change once you've won their votes.

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Rishi Sunak is a repulsive person. He makes me physically sick.

He did do one good thing though. He united the country in kicking him out :bsmack:

Goodbye.

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One of their better leaders albeit he performs better in the House of Commons when on the Opposition benches. Either of his immediate successors will be a downgrade and a gift to Starmer.

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Anyone can criticise, it's an opinion which everybody has. His successor will show the real state of the party, mayhem. The gift was King Charles disagreeing with Priti Patel.

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You should see a doctor then, thats really not normal. :erm:

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The doctor would simply say stay away from him. I was exposed to him earlier today otherwise I'm generally good staying away from harm. :angel: