Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36151023)

She was in it because she was returning to the apartment of Dodi Fayed (her apparent lover).

She died because she wasnt wearing a seat belt, when the car she was in (driven by a drunken driver, at twice the speed limit) crashed into a pillar, while apparently being persued by members of the press.

While I dont particularly care for Charles, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with is utter nonsense.

Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36151024)

In defence of Charlie, as head of CofE, he ain't Dalai Lama sucking kid's tongues...

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36151019)

Much depends on exactly how it’s framed during the coronation service next week. If we are presented with a multi-faith act of worship then we have been left with a meaningless muddle that won’t be true to the confession of any religion represented there. I would be surprised if any senior Muslim or Sikh invited to the coronation would be happy with that, even if some of the liberal twits in the Church of England hierarchy are.

For what it’s worth, I know Archbishop Justin to be an evangelical and while he will be keen to allow the reality of multicultural Britain to be demonstrated I do not believe he will allow the impression that the service is one in which all gods are recognised and invoked.

‘Defender of Faith’ could be an intellectually muddled attempt to construct a single understanding of faith and deity out of all major religions, and actually I suspect that in his youth that’s probably where Charles was leaning. Today, however, I suspect it will be presented to us as a part of a constitutional responsibility to the freedom and wellbeing of all people regardless of their beliefs.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36151027)

Charles is indirectly responsible for Diana's death for the reasons I have provided.

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That's hardly a defence for Charlie! Anyway, cut some slack for the Dalai Lama.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36150987)

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36151040)

Well then we (the public) are also indirectly responsible because if nobody gave a toss about them the press would have had no reason to be chasing them. I doubt Charles spends much of his time reading the gutter press so we must be more responsible than he was?

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36151046)

I think what Seph is driving at is that if Charles had not slept with his original girlfriend after marrying Diana, had paid attention to his wife's needs, etc. i.e. done his "duty" as it were, Diana would not have been in that car with or without a seatbelt.

It is ironic as I thought that the Windsor's were big on "duty" ...

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36151046)

I think what Seph is driving at is that if Charles had not slept with his original girlfriend after marrying Diana, had paid attention to his wife's needs, etc. i.e. done his "duty" as it were, Diana would not have been in that car with or without a seatbelt.

It is ironic as I thought that the Windsor's were big on "duty" ...

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36151047)

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36151049)

But if the press were not feeding the public obsession, and they were obsessed with her way before any infidelity so to me that's just a red herring.

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36151049)

But if the press were not feeding the public obsession, and they were obsessed with her way before any infidelity so to me that's just a red herring.

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36151050)

No, in all probability, she would not have left Charles if he was a caring husband so she would not have been in that tunnel in Paris.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36151057)

Although it was duty that caused him to seek out and marry a ‘suitable’ bride from a noble family, rather than the society divorcee he wanted to marry …

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36151064)

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36151057)

Although it was duty that caused him to seek out and marry a ‘suitable’ bride from a noble family, rather than the society divorcee he wanted to marry …

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36151064)