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1andrew1 30-01-2023 21:26
Re: Five Memphis police officers charged over death of Tyre Nichols
 
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144763)
That happens often, even over here.
Do you have stats to support this wild conjecture?

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144763)
Because its good to have a differing opinion. It also brings to the point on why so many people fail to understand that resisting is never going to work well.
Not sure the poor guy got a chance to resist arrest, he was dragged out of his car and thrown to the ground.

Hugh 30-01-2023 21:30
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And here’s what can happen when you don’t resist…

https://youtu.be/eJB_DcUmNJU

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1675110508

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1675110508

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1675110508

Or was he putting his hands on his head in a threatening manner?

Mythica 30-01-2023 21:37
Re: Five Memphis police officers charged over death of Tyre Nichols
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144766)
Do you have stats to support this wild conjecture?


Not sure the poor guy got a chance to resist arrest, he was dragged out of his car and thrown to the ground.
No I don't, but we do see it often in the Police shows like Police interceptors.

At which point he started resisting.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36144768)
I don't think anyone has said it can't happen.

1andrew1 30-01-2023 21:45
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144769)
No I don't, but we do see it often in the Police shows like Police interceptors.
Then it's not really a fact and so should be discounted. You can't base your analysis on reality cop shows!

Shows like Police Interceptors aren't meant to be a statistical representation of real life. They are there to gain viewers and therefore make money for Channel 5 et al.

Mythica 30-01-2023 21:56
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144771)
Then it's not really a fact and so should be discounted. You can't base your analysis on reality cop shows!

Shows like Police Interceptors aren't meant to be a statistical representation of real life. They are there to gain viewers and therefore make money for Channel 5 et al.
Key word there, reality. They aren't just pulling people out of cars to look cool on TV, it's their job.

1andrew1 30-01-2023 22:16
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144772)
Key word there, reality. They aren't just pulling people out of cars to look cool on TV, it's their job.
Yes. Those who make the series decide which incidents should be shown and not those being filmed. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out what will maximise the viewer figures. Key word there, common sense.

Do not confuse reality TV with a statistical representation of what happens in real life.

Mythica 30-01-2023 22:42
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144773)
Yes. Those who make the series decide which incidents should be shown and not those being filmed. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out what will maximise the viewer figures. Key word there, common sense.

Do not confuse reality TV with a statistical representation of what happens in real life.
You've totally missed the point and gone on one about reality TV.

If it was The Bill or any such show, you'd have a point. It doesn't matter which incidents they show or not, it's the fact the incidents are still real and the fact they do pull people out of cars and throw them on the floor. It's their job, they aren't doing it because it's going to be on TV.

1andrew1 30-01-2023 23:12
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144775)
You've totally missed the point and gone on one about reality TV.

If it was The Bill or any such show, you'd have a point. It doesn't matter which incidents they show or not, it's the fact the incidents are still real and the fact they do pull people out of cars and throw them on the floor. It's their job, they aren't doing it because it's going to be on TV.
No one's saying that the incidents in Police Interceptor don't happen or that they are putting it on for TV.

What's important is which incidents are aired.

You must surely be able to appreciate that situations where little or nothing happens don't make it off the cutting room floor. Whereas incidents with a story to tell and lots of action, will make it onto our screens, as these attract the most viewers. An alien landing in the UK without a critical mindset might assume that these are representative of most arrests.

I'm sure you know better than that alien. And I hope you can appreciate that such action-packed incidents are untypical of the majority of arrests in this country.

Mythica 30-01-2023 23:33
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144776)
No one's saying that the incidents in Police Interceptor don't happen or that they are putting it on for TV.

What's important is which incidents are aired.

You must surely be able to appreciate that situations where little or nothing happens don't make it off the cutting room floor. Whereas incidents with a story to tell and lots of action, will make it onto our screens, as these attract the most viewers. An alien landing in the UK without a critical mindset might assume that these are representative of most arrests.

I'm sure you know better than that alien. And I hope you can appreciate that such action-packed incidents are untypical of the majority of arrests in this country.
You do know they happen on a day to day basis up and down the country don't you? To think they don't is very naive.

1andrew1 31-01-2023 00:18
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36144777)
You do know they happen on a day to day basis up and down the country don't you? To think they don't is very naive.
No one has said that these incidents don't occur on a daily basis. But they're not representative of the majority of arrests.
Police Interceptors is focused on the ones which just make good telly...so you see them most.

Entertaining as it is, if you are hoping to take an evidence-based approach to police arrests, Channel Five's Police Interceptors should not be your dataset!

Paul 31-01-2023 01:42
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144771)
Then it's not really a fact and so should be discounted. You can't base your analysis on reality cop shows!
Based on that theory we should discount all the video of this incident (and others).
Just because its being filmed by better cameras, for a TV show, doesnt suddenly mean its not real, or didnt happen. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144776)
And I hope you can appreciate that such action-packed incidents are untypical of the majority of arrests in this country.
Being chased and beaten to death by the police is not 'typical' in the US either, but it still happened. :dozey:

Mythica 31-01-2023 05:43
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144778)
No one has said that these incidents don't occur on a daily basis. But they're not representative of the majority of arrests.
Police Interceptors is focused on the ones which just make good telly...so you see them most.

Entertaining as it is, if you are hoping to take an evidence-based approach to police arrests, Channel Five's Police Interceptors should not be your dataset!
I didn't say they were representative of the majority of arrests, you seem to be just arguing with yourself over reality TV shows.

1andrew1 31-01-2023 09:06
Re: Five Memphis police officers charged over death of Tyre Nichols
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36144779)
Based on that theory we should discount all the video of this incident (and others).
Just because its being filmed by better cameras, for a TV show, doesnt suddenly mean its not real, or didnt happen. :rolleyes:
Where did I say it didn’t happen? The point I was making to Mythica was that it's the interesting ones which get shown, many more get filmed.

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36144779)
Being chased and beaten to death by the police is not 'typical' in the US either, but it still happened. :dozey:
Obviously.

Paul 31-01-2023 16:16
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36144787)
Where did I say it didn’t happen?
I already quoted it once.
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Then it's not really a fact and so should be discounted.

Paul 02-02-2023 02:52
Re: Five Memphis police officers charged over death of Tyre Nichols
 
Three emergency workers have also been fired in relation to this.

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Officials said two paramedics and a driver who responded to the scene did not provide him with adequate care.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64408456


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