Re: The return of the lb
 

Yes, and that's now just a word in France that people know as a social term for 50cl unless I'm misunderstanding what the bars are dong?

The 'old pint' in France was very different

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint#Other_pints
I'm not sure what's that's got to do with the Imperial Pint?

Re: The return of the lb
 

Une pinte, actually. And if you do so, you get 50cl. France *has*not* retained imperial measures, its language has simply retained a few of the terms.

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Whilst France is "metric" they, as you say, retain some old measures, at least in name, though most have been "metricised" in volume and weight (probably for the taxman). The early troubles were caused by the same, or similar, names actually being different quantities around the country and indeed, Europe wide. That made trade difficult.

My wife had several old French recipe books that mentioned pintes, livres, litrons, demi-quarterons, demiard and chopine amongst others.

The pinte was actually just under a litre, and was 1⁄36 of a cubic pied du roi.

A pinte in Paris is now half of what it was in the rest of the country (do the Parisiens get Paris Weighting Allowance?)

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Probably a distraction, but isn't this just part of the 'bonfire of regulations' which the Conservatives promised? They are just sexing it up a bit for the section of the electorate that hates everything EU.

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Not exactly the most neutral survey I've ever seen

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/stat...fRY5UszkL7ki2Q

Re: The return of the lb
 

Except that we adopted the metric system in 1965, long before we joined the EU.

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Certain parts of it, We also ignored certain parts of it.

We did what was best for us, using our own agency as a sovereign nation.

Great to do what we think is best for us, rather than being told what is best for us………….don’t you think?

Re: The return of the lb
 

And why is returning to archaic nonsensical units and measurements best for us? Or could it possibly be a political dog whistle diversion thing?

Either way it's the policy of a Govt that's totally lost it's way (if it ever had one). Forget inflation, stagnant wages a potential world war, catastrophic climate change, rocketing fuel prices and a collapsing economy. Pounds and ounces is what the people want !

Re: The return
 

We’re not though are we, but you know that.

responsibility of the Bank of England, they’ve failed big time. But it is a western issue.

wages were actually going up an were ahead, until the recent western rise in inflation, but they have put a few hundred quid in everyone’s skyrocket to help out.

I’ve checked all data and I’m pretty sure we didn’t start it, but I have seen that we been at the forefront of support and the Ukraine population and government hold us and Boris in high regard.

well it’s not catastrophic at the moment, nor is it likely to be for several hundred years. But as a nation our drive to meet “net zero” (although unnecessary) is partly what is making the poor in the U.K. poorer. We are investing and powering with renewables well ahead of other more polluting nations at the expense of us.

Can’t have it both ways. The drive against “catastrophic climate change” is what is driving up fuel prices. Burn in the fire of your own making

Re: The return
 

So nothing to do with the sanctions resulting from the invasion of Ukraine, allowing the reduction of gas storage capacity in the UK, allowing nimbyism to triumph over the cheapest form of electricity generation (onshore wind) or giving EDF insufficient notice to have postponed the closure of Sizewell B?

Re: The return
 

Yes, that too. But energy prices were already increased due to the switch to green energy.

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All part of the switch to less polluting fuels.

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You never were someone who valued democracy, were you, Andrew? I seem to recall you wanted to ignore the democratic decision to leave the EU as well.

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While the government did urge a delay, you posted yourself that the company had decided not to delay closure. In any case, surely the decision would have been made to facilitate the move away from reliance on fossil fuels and to address the Ukraine situation, which only became an issue just over 100 days ago.

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Whoefully incorrect.
But we're off topic so I shall limit my reply to this and your other assertions.

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The move away from storing large amounts of gas offshore/and or onshore I think was a mistake in regards to removing a shock buffer from global price fluctuations. The war in Ukraine has quickened and exacerbated what was an already increasing trend but it not the cause of the rise in costs.

offshore wind provides more scale, but renewable (certainly wind) is not the answer, it is a very important part of the mix but not the answer The premature closing of coal powered stations and failure to start building new nuclear at least
15years ago - is definitely part of the problem.