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jonbxx 02-02-2021 15:33

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Considering that;
  • The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
  • Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)

Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm

downquark1 02-02-2021 15:42

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36069104)
Considering that;
  • The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
  • Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)

Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm

The gender dysphoric are usually people who want to change to the opposite gender, they aren't usually for creating new ones.

jonbxx 02-02-2021 16:32

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36069106)
The gender dysphoric are usually people who want to change to the opposite gender, they aren't usually for creating new ones.

The NHS defines Gender Dysphoria as;

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..a term that describes a sense of unease that a person may have because of a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity.
The 'identity' was key for me, it doesn't say opposite sex

Pierre 02-02-2021 16:34

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36069104)
Considering that;
  • The levels of self harm and suicide are ridiculously high in cases of gender dysphoria (gender not matching assigned sex) link link
  • Gender identity disclosure and reassignment reduces these risks (link)

Why would you not want to accept other genders exist? I can't see any harm in this at all and, based on the evidence available, to not do this actually causes harm

But what are the other genders and/or identities?

Sephiroth 02-02-2021 16:46

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
The more identities/genders are devised, the more incomprehensible it becomes. Kids can't be taught this. What they are taught in order to accord respect and opportunity for affected persons needs to be simplified.

Mad Max 02-02-2021 17:02

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36069119)
The more identities/genders are devised, the more incomprehensible it becomes. Kids can't be taught this. What they are taught in order to accord respect and opportunity for affected persons needs to be simplified.

Spot on, Seph, and what they are taught should be something worthwhile and not this bloody nonsense.

Pierre 02-02-2021 17:11

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36068204)
[COLOR="Blue"]There are some genders capable of engendering (!) ambiguity:

Bigender 

Gender Fluid

Genderqueer


https://young.scot/get-informed/nati...identity-terms



:wtf:


:banghead:

So lets break it down then:

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Agender 
Not having a gender or identifying with a gender. They may describe themselves as being gender neutral or genderless. 
So you're nothing then? which also the same as

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Genderqueer
A gender identity label often used by people who do not identify with being a man or a woman, or as an umbrella term for many gender non-conforming or non-binary identities.
the same as Agender above, so again just another way of saying the same thing.


whereas

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Bigender 
A person who fluctuates between traditionally “male” and “female” gender-based behaviours and identities.
and

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Gender Fluid
A mix of boy and girl. A person who is gender fluid may always feel like a mix of the two traditional genders, but may feel more man some days, and more woman other days.
and

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Two-Spirit
Is an umbrella term traditionally used by Native American people to recognise individuals who possess qualities of both genders
are three ways of saying the same thing


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Cisgender 
A person whose gender identity and biological sex assigned at birth are the same. For example they were born biologically as a male, and express their gender as male. 
I think the term you're looking for is either male or female.

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Gender Expression
The external display of one’s gender, through a combination of how they dress, how they act and other factors, generally measured on scales of masculinity and femininity.
a transvestite then.


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Intersex
A person born with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t seem to fit the typical definitions of female or male. For example, a person might be born appearing to be female on the outside, but having mostly male-typical anatomy on the inside.
This is the best one, so what are we describing here a woman born with a vagina but not a womb. Apart from the reproductive organs of both sexes we all have the same anatomy on the inside.

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Gender Variant
Someone who either by nature or by choice does not conform to gender-based expectations of society 
So what, again a Transvestite? a woman that dresses in trouser suit? A very camp straight male, a woman bricklayer?

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Mx.
Is a title (e.g. Mr., Ms., etc.) that is gender neutral. Pronounced miks, (similar to Ms) it is often the option of choice for folks who do not identify as cisgender.
nothing to do with gender but how you want to write your name which pretty much the same thing as

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Ze / Hir 
Alternate pronouns that are gender neutral. Pronounced /zee/ and /here/ they replace “he” and “she” and “his” and “hers” respectively. Alternatively some people who are not comfortable/do not embrace he/she use the plural pronoun “they/their” as a gender neutral singular pronoun.
not anything to with gender

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Third Gender
A term for a person who does not identify with either man or woman, but identifies with another gender. This gender category is used by societies that recognise three or more genders, both contemporary and historic, and is also a conceptual term meaning different things to different people who use it.
well as seen as so far no evidence has been produced in this list of a third or forth gender, I'd love to know what the other gender is.

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Transgender
A person who lives as a member of a gender other than that expected based on sex assigned at birth.
a term I recognise. as someone transitioning from male to female or vice versa.

It's all bollocks.

Sephiroth 02-02-2021 17:12

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36069122)
Spot on, Seph, and what they are taught should be something worthwhile and not this bloody nonsense.

Well put, Max.

Angua 02-02-2021 17:50

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36069097)
if you're trying to be anything other than Male or Female, then what are you trying to be?

If in their head they feel like a woman trapped in the wrong body, then perhaps they need to learn a bit more about how those born female managed, having some regard for the struggles they have gone through to reach a point where there is still inequality, but it is getting there.

We are all human beings, gender is not black and white as some would like to think. Even the chromosomes that determine sex can be shades of grey.

The biggest problem I can see, is the obsession with labels.

OLD BOY 06-02-2021 20:18

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
There are three genders. Male, female and not sure.

papa smurf 06-02-2021 20:24

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36069688)
There are three genders. Male, female and not sure.

Are you sure?

Mad Max 06-02-2021 21:03

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36069689)
Are you sure?


:D

Maggy 06-02-2021 21:07

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36069689)
Are you sure?

Why? Aren't you?;)

OLD BOY 06-02-2021 21:33

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36069689)
Are you sure?

I’m positive, mate! Wanna fight?

:D

Sephiroth 06-02-2021 21:55

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36069704)
I’m positive, mate! Wanna fight?

:D

You need to self isolate and contemplate this question!


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