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Mr K 15-11-2020 19:56

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058361)
I believe he means princess nut nut.

Get it right, 'Princess Nut Nuts'.

Her choice of spouse doesn't help refute the name, however I like her ;)

TheDaddy 15-11-2020 21:26

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36058361)
I believe he means princess nut nut.

Hope you're not on the boat, I fear it's about to be unexpectedly sunk

Hugh 23-04-2021 17:20

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It’s all about to get very interesting....

Background - No. 10 ‘sources*’ are alleging that Dominic Cummings leaked the text messages between Dyson and BoJo (and others) - Dom C has taken extreme umbrage at this...

*BoJo’s Director of Communications, Jack Doyle

https://dominiccummings.com/2021/04/...-claims-today/
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2. Re lockdown. Last year there was a meeting between the PM, Cabinet Secretary, the Director of Communications and me regarding the leak of the decision for a further lockdown on the Friday evening immediately after the meeting in the Cabinet Room that made the decision (known in the media as ‘the chatty rat story’). The Cabinet Secretary told the PM that the leak was neither me nor the then Director of Communications and that ‘all the evidence definitely leads to Henry Newman and others in that office, I’m just trying to get the communications data to prove it’. The PM was very upset about this. He said to me afterwards, ‘If Newman is confirmed as the leaker then I will have to fire him, and this will cause me very serious problems with Carrie as they’re best friends … [pause] perhaps we could get the Cabinet Secretary to stop the leak inquiry?”

I told him that this was ‘mad’ and totally unethical, that he had ordered the inquiry himself and authorised the Cabinet Secretary to use more invasive methods than are usually applied to leak inquiries because of the seriousness of the leak. I told him that he could not possibly cancel an inquiry about a leak that affected millions of people, just because it might implicate his girlfriend’s friends. I refused to try to persuade the Cabinet Secretary to stop the inquiry and instead I encouraged the Cabinet Secretary to conduct the inquiry without any concern for political ramifications. I told the Cabinet Secretary that I would support him regardless of where the inquiry led. I warned some officials that the PM was thinking about cancelling the inquiry. They would give evidence to this effect under oath to any inquiry. I also have WhatsApp messages with very senior officials about this matter which are definitive.

Shortly afterwards the Cabinet Secretary authorised the PM’s then Official Spokesman to tell the media that his inquiry had shown that neither I nor the then Director of Communications were the ‘lockdown leakers’ and he confirmed to me in writing that he had so instructed the PM’s then Official Spokesman (who subsequently left). The PM himself also confirmed in writing that the leak inquiry had shown that neither I nor the then Director of Communications was the leaker, describing rumours to this effect as ‘total bullshit’.

The PM therefore knows that I was not the source of the leak and that the Cabinet Secretary authorised the Prime Minister’s Official Spokesman to tell the media this, yet he has now authorised his DOC to make this accusation.

The Cabinet Secretary knows the above is true and obviously can see our messages regarding this on his own phone. He behaved with complete integrity during this difficult incident.

These events contributed to my decision to stick to my plan to leave No10 by 18 December, which I had communicated to the PM in July the day before my long-delayed operation.

3. Re the flat. The Prime Minister’s DOC has also made accusations regarding me and leaks concerning the PM’s renovation of his flat. The PM stopped speaking to me about this matter in 2020 as I told him I thought his plans to have donors secretly pay for the renovation were unethical, foolish, possibly illegal and almost certainly broke the rules on proper disclosure of political donations if conducted in the way he intended. I refused to help him organise these payments. My knowledge about them is therefore limited. I would be happy to tell the Cabinet Secretary or Electoral Commission what I know concerning this matter.

4. I have made the offer to hand over some private text messages, even though I am under no legal obligation to do so, because of the seriousness of the claims being made officially by No10 today, particularly the covid leak that caused serious harm to millions. This does not mean that I will answer every allegation made by No10.

The proper way for such issues to be handled is via an urgent Parliamentary inquiry into the government’s conduct over the covid crisis which ought to take evidence from all key players under oath and have access to documents. Issues concerning covid and/or the PM’s conduct should not be handled as No10 has handled them over the past 24 hours. I will cooperate fully with any such inquiry and am happy to give evidence under oath. I am happy for No10 to publish every email I received and sent July 2019-November 2020 (with no exceptions other than, obviously, some national security / intelligence issues).

It is sad to see the PM and his office fall so far below the standards of competence and integrity the country deserves.

I will not engage in media briefing regarding these issues but will answer questions about any of these issues to Parliament on 26 May for as long as the MPs want.

Mr K 23-04-2021 18:32

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077797)
It’s all about to get very interesting....

Background - No. 10 ‘sources*’ are alleging that Dominic Cummings leaked the text messages between Dyson and BoJo (and others) - Dom C has taken extreme umbrage at this...

*BoJo’s Director of Communications, Jack Doyle

https://dominiccummings.com/2021/04/...-claims-today/

He can hardly complain, exactly the dark arts he got up to. Guess he's trying to Take Back Control, ;) I'm more inclined to believe Bozza which is saying something. Dommy's an habitual liar which doesn't help his case.

As Caesar in Carry on Cleo said, shortly before his demise, 'Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me !'

Sephiroth 23-04-2021 19:49

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What DC says about Boris, Carrie and Carrie's friend smells right to me.

Mr K 23-04-2021 20:11

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077806)
What DC says about Boris, Carrie and Carrie's friend smells right to me.

Carrie is lovely, she likes bunny rabbits and green space. I like her, and so does your mate Bozza. Mind you, she must also be severely myopic. ;)

GrimUpNorth 23-04-2021 20:14

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Nice attempt by No 10 to try and stir up a lynch mob to go after Dom he must have known it would happen when the need arose, particularly as it's something straight out of his playbook. It's a very poor attempt to try and deflect from the fact that Bozza should have reported his texts etc and didn't. Can't say I'm surprised by either behaviour to be honest, it's what I've come to expect from this mob.

Mad Max 23-04-2021 20:46

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36077809)
Nice attempt by No 10 to try and stir up a lynch mob to go after Dom he must have known it would happen when the need arise, particularly as it's something straight out of his playbook. It's a very poor attempt to try and reflect from the fact that Bozza should have reported his texts etc and didn't. Can't say I'm surprised by either behaviour to be honest, it's what I've come to expect from this mob.

Aww ffs, if he didn't do what he did you'd all be moaning minnies, saying, he should have done more, our vaccination levels are one of the best in the world, yet we still get the doomsayers, he did what he did in the emergency that was upon us, and imo got it right.

Mr K 23-04-2021 21:04

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36077812)
Aww ffs, if he didn't do what he did you'd all be moaning minnies, saying, he should have done more, our vaccination levels are one of the best in the world, yet we still get the doomsayers, he did what he did in the emergency that was upon us, and imo got it right.

The highest death toll in Europe isn't 'getting it right'. Too slow to react, too inept and too stupid not to get the disease himself by ignoring his own advice. This
is our leader folks....

Mad Max 23-04-2021 21:10

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36077817)
The highest death toll in Europe isn't 'getting it right'. Too slow to react, too inept and too stupid not to get the disease himself by ignoring his own advice. This
is our leader folks....

That's now, lets see what it is when the idiots in the EU eventually vaccinate their own people.

Maggy 23-04-2021 21:48

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Let's try and leave out Covid from this thread please.The topic is Cummings.

1andrew1 23-04-2021 22:00

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I wonder what Michael Gove makes of it all? ;)

Reading the contradictions between Cummings' version of event and Johnson's is tricky. Who should I disbelieve?

GrimUpNorth 23-04-2021 22:56

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36077812)
Aww ffs, if he didn't do what he did you'd all be moaning minnies, saying, he should have done more, our vaccination levels are one of the best in the world, yet we still get the doomsayers, he did what he did in the emergency that was upon us, and imo got it right.

Not saying his promise to whoever to make it easy for them to supply whatever was needed during a national emergency was wrong. What is/was wrong is his failure to inform the civil service that he'd had the discussions in the first place. 10 out of 10 for the whataboutism though ;).

1andrew1 23-04-2021 23:02

Re: Dominic Cummings has resigned
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36077827)
Not saying his promise to whoever to make it easy for them to supply whatever was needed during a national emergency was wrong. What is/was wrong is his failure to inform the civil service that he'd had the discussions in the first place. 10 out of 10 for the whataboutism though ;).

Also processing of competent suppliers who could help the country in its time of need was delayed as civil servants had to deal with requests to push through deals from inexperienced suppliers well connected to government.

pip08456 23-04-2021 23:15

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36077828)
Also processing of competent suppliers who could help the country in its time of need was delayed as civil servants had to deal with requests to push through deals from inexperienced suppliers well connected to government.

You have evidence of that Andrew especially relating to ventilators? A link would be helpful.


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