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BenMcr 26-10-2020 12:04
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36054944)
Things would be much easier if not for fraud. Because of the fraudsters the system ends up costing more and the rules get more and more complex so many who need help miss out.
Although Fraud exists, it's low in regards to the overall system:
https://assets.publishing.service.go...-estimates.pdf

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2.2% of benefit expenditure was overpaid in 2018/19 This remained the same as in 2017/18. It amounted to £4.1bn of overpayments.

1.1% of benefit expenditure was underpaid in 2018/19 This remained the same as in 2017/18. It amounted to £2.0bn of underpayments

Net Government loss from overpayments was 1.6% of benefit expenditure. This remained the same as in 2017/18. £1.1bn of overpayments were recovered in 2018/19 so the net Government loss was £3.0bn.

papa smurf 26-10-2020 12:23
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36054953)
Although Fraud exists, it's low in regards to the overall system:
https://assets.publishing.service.go...-estimates.pdf
How many school dinners would £3bn buy

BenMcr 26-10-2020 12:47
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36054959)
How many school dinners would £3bn buy
That's a false argument.

Fixing the reasons behind benefit overpayments and underpayments is something that is not simple or quick.

A temporary extension to free school meals while there is global pandemic is something that gives children the food they need and allows for a proper consideration of the issues once England is in a better position to have that discussion.

papa smurf 26-10-2020 13:21
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36054961)
That's a false argument.

Fixing the reasons behind benefit overpayments and underpayments is something that is not simple or quick.

A temporary extension to free school meals while there is global pandemic is something that gives children the food they need and allows for a proper consideration of the issues once England is in a better position to have that discussion.

It wasn't meant as an argument just considering if the gov sorted out these overpayments then there might be a future pot to pay for school meals,i was thinking of the future not now.

BenMcr 26-10-2020 13:33
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
Ok, sorry in that case. It just seems for some to be the argument for the reason not to do anything now and that's the falsehood.

Hugh 08-11-2020 00:40
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54841316

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Marcus Rashford: Boris Johnson relents over footballer's campaign with £396m food package

Marcus Rashford's campaign to tackle holiday hunger and child poverty in England has been addressed with a £396m package in a government climbdown.

The prime minister telephoned the footballer on Saturday to tell him of the new plans for targeted support over Christmas, Easter and Summer holidays.

Rashford said nearly 1.7 million children would be helped, adding he had a good conversation with Boris Johnson.

GrimUpNorth 08-11-2020 08:18
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36056874)
Good.

Mr K 08-11-2020 09:53
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36056880)
Good.
Just a shame he felt he had to wait to the US election result to hide the U turn. Even more of a shame for the kids in the October half term.

papa smurf 08-11-2020 09:58
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36056886)
Just a shame he felt he had to wait to the US election result to hide the U turn. Even more of a shame for the kids in the October half term.
They've got there chips and turkey twizzlers back so you should be happy or at least less grumpy;)

1andrew1 08-11-2020 10:12
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36056887)
They've got there chips and turkey twizzlers back so you should be happy or at least less grumpy;)
Mr K's been in chipper form since at least 4.40pm yesterday. ;)

Mr K 08-11-2020 20:10
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36056888)
Mr K's been in chipper form since at least 4.40pm yesterday. ;)
Yes the World does have a little bit of hope now :)

RichardCoulter 08-11-2020 20:44
Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals
 
This is good news, though I suspect it's been done as he can't afford to have any more enemies than he needs to after his handling of the pandemic & a poll I posted says that if Brexit results in no deal, most of the public would blame Johnson.


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