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offmore15 19-05-2020 11:16

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36035569)
That wouldn't comply with Virgin Group branding rules. All the companies are "Virgin <something>".

virgin02media then

newapollo 19-05-2020 11:21

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
VOMITT - Virgin, O2, Mobile, Internet, TV, Telephone :eek:
VO2, (most people don't say Virgin Media, they say Virgin)

1andrew1 19-05-2020 11:40

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36035667)
Well if you can remember far back enough when BT launched O2 the full name was:

mmO2

So they could bring it back to VMO2.

But no, they will keep both brands. This is a Joint Venture not a merger. They still have to keep a certain independence as if it doesn't work out they can separate.

I like the VMO2 idea as the holding company's name.

It's three things;)
- It's structured as a takeover of Telefonica UK (which trades as O2) by Virgin Media as that ensures Virgin Media's valuable tax credits can still be used.
- It's an effective merger of Virgin Media Ltd and Telefionica UK Ltd as it's a combination of equals.
- The new entity will be 50-50 joint venture between Telefonica SA and Liberty Global plc.

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Originally Posted by offmore15 (Post 36035672)
virgin02media then

Is "Media" a relevant term for what is now a telecoms company?

Pierre 19-05-2020 13:26

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36035680)

It's three things;)
- It's structured as a takeover of Telefonica UK (which trades as O2) by Virgin Media as that ensures Virgin Media's valuable tax credits can still be used.
- It's an effective merger of Virgin Media Ltd and Telefionica UK Ltd as it's a combination of equals.
- The new entity will be 50-50 joint venture between Telefonica SA and Liberty Global plc.

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Is "Media" a relevant term for what is now a telecoms company?

https://www.nationalconnectivitychampion.co.uk/

Hugh 19-05-2020 14:24

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
"national connectivity champion" just trips off the tongue, doesn’t it? :D

1andrew1 19-05-2020 14:33

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36035709)
"national connectivity champion" just trips off the tongue, doesn’t it? :D

International cash cow champion would be a more honest description. ;)

Skie 19-05-2020 22:16

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
Champion of poor customer service and free coffees.

Kushan 28-05-2020 17:02

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...uk-merger.html

Ironically, the EU has overruled its decision to block the O2/Three merger from a few years ago. Too late now though, just thought it was an interesting development.

1andrew1 28-05-2020 17:19

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36037466)
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...uk-merger.html

Ironically, the EU has overruled its decision to block the O2/Three merger from a few years ago. Too late now though, just thought it was an interesting development.

I wonder if Three and Telefonica can seek compensation?

Pierre 28-05-2020 18:11

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
4 years on..........reason enough to be free of the ECoJ

Horizon 28-05-2020 18:20

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36037459)
I would imagine that post-merger, the O2 shops will market Virgin Media's services as well, in the way that the EE shops now market BT services - well, once they reopen, that is!

I agree with that and probably indicates the likelihood that the Virgin brand will get ditched.

Pierre 28-05-2020 20:20

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36037500)
indicates the likelihood that the Virgin brand will get ditched.

Not likely....at all.

Both brands will continue. This is a JV, not a merger. A subtle but important difference. Both brand identities will continue until one party decides, and stumps up the cash, to buy the other one out.

Horizon 28-05-2020 20:44

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
I disagree. Branding has nothing to do with whether the company is a result of a merger or JV. The parent cos will agree what branding the JV will use - they probably have already.

Using different brands by one company can in some cases be confusing and I see no benefit in retaining both brands post merger. Why pay Richard Branson money to use the Virgin brand when there will be another choice?

Perhaps there may even be a new brand altogether.

Pierre 28-05-2020 21:51

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36037534)
I disagree. Branding has nothing to do with whether the company is a result of a merger or JV. The parent cos will agree what branding the JV will use - they probably have already.

Using different brands by one company can in some cases be confusing and I see no benefit in retaining both brands post merger. Why pay Richard Branson money to use the Virgin brand when there will be another choice?

Perhaps there may even be a new brand altogether.

Well, I’m going on previous examples. Vodafone/ Ziggo was LG’s first foray into this kind of thing, two strong brands, that they decided to keep.

Virgin is still an iconic sought after brand, and although we have to grease Ricardos palm, I don’t see them ditching it............................unless of course, ditching Richards money is one of the synergy savings identified? Who knows?

Horizon 29-05-2020 12:38

Re: Liberty Global in talks to merge Virgin Media with O2
 
Branson's brand was popular, but after recent events I'm not so sure now.

He's not been in the public eye much these recent years and he is getting elderly. But we we did see him a lot the other week, when he was seeking taxpayers cash to bail out his airline, even though he is a billionaire and a tax exile to boot.

I think that one move has done enormous damage to the brand and the JV may (or may not) wish to distance itself from all things related to Branson.


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