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I’ll never convince you, Old Boy, given the frankly ridiculous depths you will go to in order to defend the Conservatives at all cost. It would be admirable, if it wasn’t so perverse, given your propensity to ignore all objective fact and economic data since 1979.

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But that couldn't be avoided if we want the breathing space. The withdrawal agreement is only for a year, so what's the problem?

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The majority of the electorate disagree with you and will be voting accordingly.

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Ah that old chestnut. It’s sad to see the straw you clutch to given your inability to articulate a coherent response to my many, many valid points.

The “majority of the electorate” doesn’t mean your stance has any grounds in economic reality. Voters can vote for many reasons beamed into their eyeballs from a small number of billionaire newspaper barons.

Indeed you yourself said, and I did concede the point, that voters in principle don’t want to pay more tax. They equally don’t want to face up to the consequences of not doing so - 2 trillion of debt.

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It’s not what was said..

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You said: 'So we would have left the EU, but still following all the rules and pay the same as before.'

That is what I was responding to. I did highlight your remarks in bold.

If Labour were in charge, your comment would be relevant, because he is going for Brino (or remain).

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Interesting piece in the telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-anti-semitic/


https://antisemitism.uk/caa-and-kcl-...semitic-views/

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Choice quote from the second link:

And, crucially:

In other words, this isn't a politically motivated smear campaign against grandpa Corbyn and it isn't a reaction to the stuff that's been in the news during the election campaign.

Of course those who refuse to believe Corbyn's Labour Party has a very specific problem with this will continue to play whataboutery over the Tories' perceived failings, or put it down to Tory bias at the heart of British Jewry (laughable considering the well known, historic links between British Jews and the Labour movement).

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The only thing laughable is that after 4 years people think that smear will still fly.

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BJ telling fibs on Andrew Marr this morning, saying the Queen's Speech, which set out his plans for government, including a bill to prevent automatic early release of prisoners, had been "blocked by Parliament" - it passed by 16 votes...

Linky - 24th October 2019

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Hence his absolute fear of any kind of scrutiny.

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1) That was the speech as a whole, not any specific proposals which are yet to be put forward.
2) The election has cancelled that set of general proposals.
3) The need for an election has been the thing that blocked any proposals.

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A rather perverse outlook on Parliamentary democracy, I’ll give you that. Especially as it was a Government Bill that led to said election.

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Because of the blocking of Brexit by Parliament. What specific measures in that Speech have been implemented or turned down? Approval of the Queen's speech is usually a formality. Absolutely nothing is brought into law as a result of it.

Just completely ludicrous to suggest that Labour or the Lib Dems would be harder on criminals, especially terrorists.

A monitoring tag is only really useful after any crime. It might deter burglars or somebody hoping to get away with a crime, but it would hardly be a deterrent to a suicide bomber/attacker.

What specifically did he refer to?