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Mick	16-08-2018 16:10

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35959941)

I suspect it is dying, as you put it, because once you cover the points that Boris is an idiot and not fit for office, what is left? Just a bad joke ..

But not really.

Boris was the Mayor of London, which by the way, has a office that he WAS fit for and he did a rather splendid job of the place - far cry from what it has become now, under a certain crappy mayor, with moped crime/knife crime/Acid attacks/murders blah blah. He WAS fit for office and he would make a better PM than May and the terrorist loving sympathiser, leader of a leftist, socialist cult and a racist Anti-Semitic, Jeremy Corbyn, any day.

Damien

16-08-2018 16:57

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35959976)

Boris wasted a lot of money as mayor on pet projects like the skylift and the garden bridge. His record isn't great.

Mick	17-08-2018 00:13

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35959988)

Boris wasted a lot of money as mayor on pet projects like the skylift and the garden bridge. His record isn't great.

He is way better than the current one, any day.

His approval rating was 54% on leaving office of London Mayor in 2016. There was low expectations when he got the job, but as he was re-elected in 2012, to serve two terms, he must have been a hit to get that far.

Mr K	17-08-2018 00:32

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35960040)

Do you live in London Mick? Maybe best to leave it to Londoners to decide how brilliant he was. Personally think they were welcome to him ! Andy Burnham, now he's a great Mayor ;)

Hugh	17-08-2018 07:51

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35960040)

You could say the same thing about Ken Livingston, then...

(I wouldn’t, but he served two terms)

Mick	17-08-2018 10:33

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35960045)

Do you live in London Mick? Maybe best to leave it to Londoners to decide how brilliant he was. Personally think they were welcome to him ! Andy Burnham, now he's a great Mayor ;)

I will remember that next time you criticise President Trump and will ask you if you live in America, if not, tell you to let them decide if he is good or not.

Mr K	17-08-2018 10:54

Re: Boris Johnson

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35960078)

I will remember that next time you criticise President Trump and will ask you if you live in America, if not, tell you to let them decide if he is good or not.

Same would apply to you Mick ;)

Mick	17-08-2018 12:14

Re: Boris Johnson

I’ll decide what applies to me, no one else.

Sephiroth

17-08-2018 15:58

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35959205)

As has been said before, the Labour Party seems to suffer from anti-Semitsm and the Conservative Party from Islamophobia. Neither cancels the other out but both leaders need to get a grip. JC by looking in the mirror and at his friends' list and TM at BoJo's latest pearls of wisdom. Until Theresa May asserts herself over BoJo, she has no chance in improving her negotiating position in Brussels.

First, you must not tarnish the Conservative Party with the word Islamophobia. You cannot substantiate that.

Second, a phobia has to be irrational. There is nothing irrational about being worried about what a Burka hides or, for that matter, a person with a beard and a rucksack sitting opposite you on the tube and praying might intend doing. There is nothing irrational about worrying what's going on in mosques when we read about Imams urging violence and so on.

Third, Boris may well behave like a buffoon at times but at least he says what he thinks and he's not far off the popular mark most times. He should have put the "letter box" comment in a more meaningful way around intimidating appearance or concealment. But he was, at least, defending peoples' right to wear what they choose in our country.

Fourth, this seems to be a Remainers vs Leavers debate.

We will find out more if Boris tries to become Conservative Leader and then, if so, what happens at the polls. If Boris wins, no doubt the Remainers in this topic will declare the electorate to be Islamophobic.

ianch99

19-08-2018 15:54

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35960123)

First, you must not tarnish the Conservative Party with the word Islamophobia. You cannot substantiate that.

Second, a phobia has to be irrational. There is nothing irrational about being worried about what a Burka hides or, for that matter, a person with a beard and a rucksack sitting opposite you on the tube and praying might intend doing. There is nothing irrational about worrying what's going on in mosques when we read about Imams urging violence and so on.

Third, Boris may well behave like a buffoon at times but at least he says what he thinks and he's not far off the popular mark most times. He should have put the "letter box" comment in a more meaningful way around intimidating appearance or concealment. But he was, at least, defending peoples' right to wear what they choose in our country.

Fourth, this seems to be a Remainers vs Leavers debate.

We will find out more if Boris tries to become Conservative Leader and then, if so, what happens at the polls. If Boris wins, no doubt the Remainers in this topic will declare the electorate to be Islamophobic.

He does not need to substantiate it, it is, as you say, in the public domain:

Former Conservative co-chair Baroness Warsi: The Islamophobia scandal in the Conservative party goes 'right up to the top'

Some examples:

Tory MP accused of Islamophobia after posting anti-Muslim article on Facebook

Tory councillor suspended over 'Muslim parasites' post the day after visiting a mosque with party's Deputy chairman

Tory candidate suspended for suggesting ‘people hang bacon to protect homes from terrorism’

papa smurf

19-08-2018 16:03

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35960123)

First, you must not tarnish the Conservative Party with the word Islamophobia. You cannot substantiate that.

Second, a phobia has to be irrational. There is nothing irrational about being worried about what a Burka hides or, for that matter, a person with a beard and a rucksack sitting opposite you on the tube and praying might intend doing. There is nothing irrational about worrying what's going on in mosques when we read about Imams urging violence and so on.

Third, Boris may well behave like a buffoon at times but at least he says what he thinks and he's not far off the popular mark most times. He should have put the "letter box" comment in a more meaningful way around intimidating appearance or concealment. But he was, at least, defending peoples' right to wear what they choose in our country.

Fourth, this seems to be a Remainers vs Leavers debate.

We will find out more if Boris tries to become Conservative Leader and then, if so, what happens at the polls. If Boris wins, no doubt the Remainers in this topic will declare the electorate to be Islamophobic.

Or claim they didn't know what they were voting for and demand a re-run .

denphone

19-08-2018 16:07

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35960499)

Both main parties are still in denial with Islamophobia and Antisemitism as they basically pay insincere lip service to it in their parties.

Sephiroth

19-08-2018 16:56

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35960499)

He does not need to substantiate it, it is, as you say, in the public domain:

baroness-warsi[/COLOR]-interview-2018-6"]Former Conservative co-chair Baroness Warsi: The Islamophobia scandal in the Conservative party goes 'right up to the top'
[SEPH]: Baroness Warsi would say that; wouldn't she?

Some examples:

Tory MP accused of Islamophobia after posting anti-Muslim article on Facebook
[SEPH]: Depends on your view of his words. How unjustified were they? See this article in the Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...UK-faiths.html from which I quote:
Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch, suggested the real number of foreign-born Muslims in the UK could be much higher, due to the presence of illegal immigrants who would be unlikely to respond to government surveys.

He said: "The rapid rise in the Muslim population is just one way in which mass immigration promoted, even encouraged, by this Government has affected the whole nature of our society."

Tory councillor suspended over 'Muslim parasites' post the day after visiting a mosque with party's Deputy chairman [SEPH]: That would seem to be irrational so he should be sanctioned. Doesn't mean the Tory Party is Islamophobic.

Tory candidate suspended for suggesting ‘people hang bacon to protect homes from terrorism’
[SEPH]: Ditto.

So where does that leave Boris? His words were rational, albeit poorly chosen.

Chloé Palmas

19-08-2018 18:23

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35960502)

Or claim they didn't know what they were voting for and demand a re-run .

So you want elections to last a lifetime and not have new elections after a parliamentary period?

Maybe some of us who think that the public should have a final say on the EU issue are projecting a Democratic election onto the mandate of a referendum but perhaps you are projecting the principle of a referendum upon what is defined as an election?

These are not lifetime appointments when elected to parliament ; fresh elections after a certain period of time are the norm....

papa smurf

19-08-2018 19:46

Re: Labour's Direction Under Jeremy Corbyn

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35960533)

did you actually read what i said ?

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