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Mick 16-01-2018 17:28

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
BREAKING: DOW Jones Index hits 26,000 for first time ever, under the Trump Presidency.

ALSO BREAKING: Steve Bannon Subpoenaed by Special Council Robert Mueller's grand jury. (No Surprise given what he was alleged to have said in the Fire and Fury book about Treason and Don Jnr.).

Damien 16-01-2018 18:06

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The speculation is now why was he served with a Grand Jury subpoena. Apparently it’s more formal than any of the previous people he’s called upon but you’re also rarely allowed to do it to people who aren’t the targets of the investigation. It seems to put more legal consequences on the witness if they lie though.

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Prosecutors generally prefer to interview witnesses before a grand jury when they believe they have information that the witnesses do not know or when they think they might catch the witnesses in a lie. It is much easier for a witness to stop the questioning or sidestep questions in an interview than during grand jury testimony, which is transcribed, and witnesses are required to answer every question.

“By forcing someone to testify through a subpoena, you are providing the witness with cover because they can say, ‘I had no choice — I had to go in and testify about everything I knew,’” said Solomon L. Wisenberg, a prosecutor for the independent counsel that investigated Bill Clinton when he was president.

Mick 16-01-2018 19:53

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DACA Ruling Latest: U.S Attorney General, Jeff Sessions announces the Department of Justice are taking the decision by a 9th Circuit District Judges decision that blocked President Donald Trump from shuttering a program that gave protections and work permits to some people who entered the U.S. illegally as children, to the Supreme Court. He says..“It defies both law and common sense for DACA ... to somehow be mandated nationwide by a single district court in San Francisco.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...nd-down-341183

Last week, Josh Blackman, a professor at South Texas College of Law Houston said "The Supreme Court Justices tend to not like a single 'District' Judge taking hold of nationwide decisions overnight."

Hugh 16-01-2018 20:16

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35932779)
The speculation is now why was he served with a Grand Jury subpoena. Apparently it’s more formal than any of the previous people he’s called upon but you’re also rarely allowed to do it to people who aren’t the targets of the investigation. It seems to put more legal consequences on the witness if they lie though.

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It’s got worse for Bannon - while he was giving evidence at the House Intel Committee today, Bannon was served with a subpoena for information the White House instructed him not to give.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...sia-probe.html
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Fallen former President Trump confidante Steve Bannon was served immediate subpoenas during his closed-door meeting with lawmakers Tuesday to provide testimony on information the White House instructed him not to share, according to sources with knowledge of the conversations.

In the now hours-long, ongoing interview conducted by investigators for the House Intelligence Committee, Bannon’s attorney told lawmakers that the White House directed his client not to answer questions about his time in the White House or during the transition.

Sources told Fox News Bannon did not invoke any sort of legal “privilege,” including executive privilege, to support this refusal.

The sources told Fox News that lawmakers grilled Bannon and his attorney over their refusal to answer. At that point, some members of the committee recommended subpoenas for Bannon, and documents related to the issues.

TheDaddy 16-01-2018 20:19

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35932730)
Point not missed.

So bloody what Hugh?

Economy in America is booming, employees are getting a wage boost thanks to Trump tax cut policies that all these liberals said he’d never manage to pass. :rolleyes:

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Got proof he’s making fortunes?

What you basing this information on exactly or you just being feeble minded like you are inaccurately claiming others to be, just because we refuse to align our way of thinking with yours ? Uh?

Go have a look how much former Presidents now make, esp Bill Clinton, hopefully that corrupt empire comes crashing down soon.

Bill Clinton recently tried to defend the revelations by Wikileaks that the Clinton Foundation paid for Chelsea Clinton’s wedding, he tweeted denying it but then he also denied having sexual relations while in office and look how those lies turned out for him.

I wasn't referring to anyone here as feeble minded as I don't think anyone here believes he isn't making of like a bandit and the information is already out there, it'll be to heavily adapt and borrow one of his recent phrases the next shitstorm to engulf his presidency, that is of course providing he actually gives anyone a moment to look into anything before causing another furore on Twitter, I could post things here but what's the point, you're not interested, all you seem interested in is deliberately misinterpreting what people post and playing the victim, with me being the latest person trying to shout you down for views dissimilar to my own, despite the fact I have said numerous times on here that I'd have voted trump, can't stand Hilary or her shrill voice and have thoroughly enjoyed his presidency so far. Feel free to bookmark this post though, we can revisit it and see if there's any truth behind it in the future.

Imo politicians should also be careful taking to much credit for stock market booms, unless of course they're also willing to take credit for the inevitable bust that comes after. If he's as smart as he says he is he'll let others lord the credit over him.


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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35932706)
Countable on the fingers of one hand IMHO.

Most of their deceit is slight of hand like call me Dave and his I'm not paying the EUs bill before adding in hushed tones on this date, they don't normally stand before you looking you in the eye or camera and say repeatedly believe me I won't do this

Damien 16-01-2018 21:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35932799)
It’s got worse for Bannon - while he was giving evidence at the House Intel Committee today, Bannon was served with a subpoena for information the White House instructed him not to give.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...sia-probe.html

So this is an additional subpoena from the House Intel Committee?

Hugh 16-01-2018 21:23

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35932802)
So this is an additional subpoena from the House Intel Committee?

Yes, issued contemporaneously because his lawyer (at the hearing) said there was information the White House instructed Bannon not to share.

The headline on the Fox News article was
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Steve Bannon subpoenaed during House Intel meeting for information the White House instructed him not to give

Damien 16-01-2018 21:36

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Too much of a coincidence surely? One of them must have informed the other. Some question both of them need Bannon to answer.

1andrew1 16-01-2018 23:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35932804)
Yes, issued contemporaneously because his lawyer (at the hearing) said there was information the White House instructed Bannon not to share.

The headline on the Fox News article was

Is it normal for the White House to instruct ex-staff not to share information with investigators? In the UK surely this would be deemed obstructing the course of justice.

Kursk 16-01-2018 23:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35932812)
Is it normal for the White House to instruct ex-staff not to share information with investigators? In the UK surely this would be deemed obstructing the course of justice.

In the UK, I think civil servants are required to sign the Official Secrets Act which is effectively a limitation on the information that can, or rather cannot, be shared during and after governmental employment.

1andrew1 16-01-2018 23:22

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35932813)
In the UK, I think civil servants are required to sign the Official Secrets Act which is effectively a limitation on the information that can, or rather cannot, be shared during and after governmental employment.

Agreed and they shouldn't share it with people writing books. But they would have to share this it with official investigations.

Kursk 16-01-2018 23:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35932816)
Agreed and they shouldn't share it with people writing books. But they would have to share this it with official investigations.

Who will also be subject to the Act otherwise the provision of info would be without lawful authority.

Hugh 17-01-2018 00:06

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35932818)
Who will also be subject to the Act otherwise the provision of info would be without lawful authority.

But Bannon was told not to share it with the Senate Intel Committee by the White House, according to his lawyer.

Kursk 17-01-2018 00:22

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35932820)
But Bannon was told not to share it with the Senate Intel Committee by the White Hose, according to his lawyer.

My comments are specifically about the UK; apologies if I've inferred otherwise.

heero_yuy 17-01-2018 10:34

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The President scored a perfect 100 per cent on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA) - a 30 question task created by medical professionals to test for dementia.

It's designed to assess attention, memory, concentration, orientation, visual skills, calculations and executive functions.

To the able-minded, the test may seem overly simple but they are some of the basic mental processes people with the disorder sadly lose.

Trump's doctor earlier revealed how the president scored a perfect 30 on the test, where anything above 26 is considered "normal" and anything below is a cause for concern.
Story and test

Not sure it proves sanity though? :erm:


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