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heero_yuy 26-05-2018 07:24

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
4 is better than 2. QAM64 better than QAM16.

It allows the system to better balance / share the available capacity.

ethan103 26-05-2018 09:55

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35948060)
4 is better than 2. QAM64 better than QAM16.

It allows the system to better balance / share the available capacity.


Is there any chance of getting QAM64 or do this not get upgraded readily by VM?

And what does that do, provide faster speeds or does it help with latency?

Synthetic 26-05-2018 10:07

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Has anyone noticed an actual improvement in service when going from 3-4 upstreams?

Still on 3 but never had an issue with congestion, suspect that's why we're still on 3 :D

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/05/11.png

heero_yuy 26-05-2018 10:08

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
The level of modulation used is a result of the hub negotiating the connection to the cabinet. If the signal to noise ratio is good enough the connection will automatically go to QAM64.

Higher modulation means more throughput and you're more likely to get your provisioned speed.

Don't think it improves latency though.

General Maximus 26-05-2018 11:54

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethan103 (Post 35948072)
And what does that do, provide faster speeds?

I wont bore you with the technical details but qam64 is 50% faster than qam16. The idea is that more channels increases the amount of available bandwidth and couple that with increased modulation increases it further. So.........going from 2 upstreams at qam16 (which is what everyone used to be on) to 4 upstreams on qam64 triples (x3) the amount of available bandwidth to you. It sounds great but isn't going to do anything for you unless you had issues to start off with (which I never have) plus it gives them plenty of leg room for future upgrades.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35948074)
Don't think it improves latency though.

nope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic (Post 35948073)
Has anyone noticed an actual improvement in service when going from 3-4 upstreams?

nope

Jon22 26-05-2018 12:57

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35948076)
So.........going from 2 upstreams at qam16 (which is what everyone used to be on)

Some areas still are on that. I know this area was, unless it's changed in the last few weeks. I could connect the Hub up to see, still got a week or so before the cancellation goes through.

SnoopZ 26-05-2018 13:09

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Yes still on 2 upstreams in cb24, I am along way from the cabinet so I guess that is why I never see qam64.

Inactive Digital 26-05-2018 18:13

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon22 (Post 35948081)
Some areas still are on that. I know this area was, unless it's changed in the last few weeks. I could connect the Hub up to see, still got a week or so before the cancellation goes through.

I visited my parents in Newport today and they are on 4 x 16qam. I'm a few miles down the road still on 2 x 16qam.

JordanTheToaster 26-05-2018 20:16

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
The only thing I've noticed is that my graph went from this:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/05/12.png


To this:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/05/13.png

Jon22 26-05-2018 23:18

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35948108)
I visited my parents in Newport today and they are on 4 x 16qam. I'm a few miles down the road still on 2 x 16qam.

Interesting, wonder if the local node has been done. Hopefully it has as would of helped with the upstream congestion, if not solved it. Still not enough for me to cancel the cancellation though.

cje85 27-05-2018 11:00

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
I now have 4 bonded upstreams since rebooting my hub yesterday (St Helens area).

1 32600000 36.3 5120 16 qam 3
2 53700000 37.8 5120 64 qam 5
3 25800000 36.3 5120 16 qam 4
4 39400000 37.8 5120 16 qam 2

Only 537 is 64QAM but I've been told that's normal for my area?

kalleh 27-05-2018 17:02

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanTheToaster (Post 35948135)
The only thing I've noticed is that my graph went from this:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/05/14.png


To this:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/05/15.png

More Upstream channels better latency as not as congested as before.

JordanTheToaster 27-05-2018 17:54

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
I thought so still a welcome surprise just getting 4 up channels randomly.

kalleh 27-05-2018 18:13

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanTheToaster (Post 35948235)
I thought so still a welcome surprise just getting 4 up channels randomly.

Let's hope the next step is a capable CPE with has a modem mode from day 1 and no chipset issues :)

Jon22 05-06-2018 20:44

Re: 4 upstream channel bonding - post here
 
4x QAM64 upstream channels on my Dad’s connection now. On Telf14.


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