Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

And the alternative is? 5 years of Brexit mayhem? Tory party fighting against itself? Winding up of the NHS? The rich getting more obscenley rich and no safety for the poor, with the end of the welfare state? Your daydream has become a nightmare. (oh, we might get Fox hunting and grammar schools back so that's progress I guess...)

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Like when he met Martin McGuinness?! :shocked:
Either he's stupid or he's lying about not knowing. Pick one.....:dozey:

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness got on well, so I think we can forgive Jezza. The fact that these people chose to talk and stop fighting can only be good. Life and people aren't perfect, tomorrow is what counts

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Correct and when it comes to his supporters, well there's none so blind as those who will not see. To acknowledge his history shows them up for what they are so they remain in typical denial mode in spite of the facts.

Quiet frankly anyone who really believes that Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott have changed their views is deluded.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Still lean heavy on poll data don't you?

Given last few polls. Including the last GE in 2015 was way off...

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Are you serious?

The talking started too little too late after years of bloodshed. You ask the families of the victims if they can forgive and forget, those who were in the IRA and those who were sympathetic to their cause, (that's Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell)

Given the IRA bombed my city in 1996, there is not a cat in hells chance I would vote for those with traitorous histories.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Which is why the smug Tories are now cacking themselves, the margin of comfort has gone. The polls might have over compensated for (rightly) shy Tories, an awful lot of students have registered to vote and the pensioners aren't happy ( miserable old gits that they are ;) ). We'll see, the British public usually let me down in their stupidity if that's any comfort ;)

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Corbyn wasn't about trying to talk to the IRA to bring about a peaceful solution. That was down to Major and Blair (and others of course). Corbyn and his fellow travellers supported the IRA against the British state. They wanted a United Ireland and wanted peace on those terms and clearly supported the IRA's actions in achieving it. That is not talking.Corbyn voted against the Anglo-Irish agreement.

Major and Blair were the ones who sought a peaceful solution but did so on equal terms. There was never any question of understanding of terrorist attacks and the expectation was any attack would risk the agreement and certainly would need to be strongly condemned by all sides.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

So you also castigate John Major and Bill Clinton for speaking to 'terrorists'. If they hadn't we'd still have the IRA bombing. Those guilty of these crimes should be prosecuted, the 'amnesty' for IRA and Loyalist prisoners was as step too far imo, but talk of traitors and seeking more confrontation doesn't help.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

There you go again with your pathetic attack on democracy, as usual. :rolleyes:

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Our electoral system isn't democracy.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Is that your educated response ? :rolleyes:

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Mick, if you support party that can't win in your constituency, there's no point in voting. It's not a great system.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

It's not perfect. But it is what it is.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

No, I don't think we can.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

So, to extrapolate if you support a party that can't win, it's pointless voting for the Labour party.