Re: Southern rail strike talks to be held on second day of commuter misery
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
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Old Boy.
Sorry my friend you are totally wrong.
If it is nothing to do with the Government, then why is Chris Grayling involved. He is the biggest pain in the arse going.
The Government should strip both companies of the franchise. The customers are being treated disgracefully. And next year prises will rise. And they are NOT stupid as the companies know that passengers will pay it.
Grayling should get the Unions round the table today, and get this strike called off.
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In general, I actually agree with you. Someone needs to he held accountable for this, and to take responsibility for this. At the moment, the Unions are unlikely to be massively inconvenienced if this strike goes on. The railway company are not going to be massively inconvenienced if the strike goes on. The only people losing out are the commuters (who, despite what the government say, seem to have little or no say in how the railways are run) and the taxpayer (who will pay the compensation). The government are, of course, saying it's not our problem and offering the taxpayer's money to their friends, the railway companies.
Last time the trains in the South East got this bad, the operator (Connex) was fired. Now, our government is seemingly doing the opposite, having said that TFL will not be allowed to take the Metro routes. They are too busy rewarding the rail companies for buggering things up to punish them.
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This Country should look at China - l believe. There railways are conducted by computer, they run on time, are clean. And if they break down. They are taken out of service and replaced straight away by another train. So the service is NOT effected.
This strike is NOT over money. Its over safety.
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The ironic thing is you stating this strike is not over money, it's over safety immediately after citing China as a shining example of an efficiently run, safe, railway. For one thing, if the Chinese railway is as computerised as you say, it is unlikely to have guards, and may not have drivers. For another, the Chinese safety regulations are so bad, it is quite a regular occurance that people are killed in their major building projects. Their lack of safety regulations, and lack of rules about worker's rights are what enables them to sell stuff so cheaply.
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If you check. Two years ago Boris Johnson wanted TFL to run trains on lines so that EACH station would have a train in it.
The Unions stopped this on the grounds of safety.
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In Central London, I suspect you'd find that the trains run at pretty much this frequency now.
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The Underground and Upper ground trains are run on very old tracks. And the tunnels are Victorian. So you MUST have a second official on trains.
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No, you don't. The law requires that any train that runs underground (this also applies on the DLR, most of which is less than 30 years old, and all of which is less than 40 years old) has at least one member of staff aboard to help with evacuations in tunnels. Which actually does have some logic to it, as if the train is evacuated in a tunnel, the passengers are going to be walking along, in the dark, a few centimetres away from a rail carrying at least 750Kv so really should have someone who is trained with them.
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