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One of the cornerstones of the remain argument was the point that it is better to be in the EU to try and change it.
Isn't that exactly what Farage has done :shrug:

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A Leopard never changes it's spots - the ridiculous arguments coming from the remain side and I don't deny there was just as many on the leave side, was that the Remain side said we needed to stay in the EU to reform it, yet you had Jean-Claude Juncker on the day before the referendum saying there will be no more negotiations. That arrogant old fool probably is a reason why many who were in the 'undecided' camp, voted to leave with that class act statement.

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That's irrelevant, fact is he made the pledge and followed through on it no matter what the reason and there will be many more examples

Exactly what, exactly you made a false assertion

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was it Nigel Farage and his 4,000,000 ukip supporters that forced camerons hand .

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You may be onto something there :)

Just need to convince the rest of cable forum now.

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their hard nuts to crack but they are nuts:)

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l bow to the intellectual political heavyweights of this forum unreservedly .:nworthy:;)

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Don't forget their 1 mp to

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Well one things for sure it wasn't any of the swivel eyed loons in the labour party that got us anywhere so Lets just unite behind that one truth lol.

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Loving the hypocrisy here :) Farage is a lazy leech of a MEP, worst MEP of all time. In fact he holds the record but he is our leech so that's ok.

If he was a Labour MEP with the same record, we would have endless posts from the usual suspects condemning the fat cats in Brussels riding the gravy train ..

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i have to admit that man makes my skin crawl .

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Ianch I couldn't give a monkey's about any mep and never have couldn't even tell you who mine is or if they are even male or female and in that I'm with the majority of the UK population. Ukip, tory, labour, lib dem or monster raving Looney I don't care and just want shot of the whole mess and concentrate on progressing the UK to a better future. If that means less trade with the EU well cya later plenty more trade in the wider world and quite a lot of it very keen to get trade going with the UK.

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I quite agree ,trouble is though we have people in charge who cannot see past the EU ,it's all they know and have no desire to do anything that may require independent thinking .

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The EU is one of the biggest economies in the world. Saying 'cya' to it is mental.

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I appreciate that no-one listens to experts anymore but I'm not aware of anyone credible, even the more optimistic projections, that see the UK saying 'cya' to the EU and catching up with the lost growth even by 2030.

I say that, the projection I am thinking of forecast a 0.1% of GDP recession over this quarter and the next 3 as a result of Brexit, total 0.4%, before growth starts again, and it looks as though we'll see a loss of more than 0.4% this quarter alone. Indeed there was a bigger drop than 0.1% just in June.

The projections that saw the UK catch up with lost growth saw a 'best of both possible' relationship with the UK in the single market.

We do not need to say 'cya' to the EU to expand our trading relationships with the rest of the world now, it's not a binary choice.