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Not wanting to be poisoned is not 'a compensation culture'. People who have never bought a car are being poisoned by this filth and VW have betrayed everyone especially those who have invested in their brand, including their sister companies. The compensation culture is the means to make VW pay for its lies; I'd rather have cleaner air but financial ruination for VW would be the next best thing.

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without a doubt there will be more .

I think this is a much bigger issue than the emissions scandal .People will buy cars based on mpg a lot more than emissions.

A good article here on that very subject

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Are you sure about that? I'd like it put to the test by asking parents which they would choose.

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If people did't want to be poisoned that much they wouldn't buy cars at all .Cars will pollute that is an inescapable fact ,the only variable is how much it will pollute and as far as the average car buyer is concerned the amount that cars can pollute is heavily regulated and enforced once a year through the MOT ,removing their need to concern themselves with it too much .
Instead of filling the pockets of people who in reality couldn't care less about car emissions and weren't inconvenienced at all why not just heavily fine the company ,lock a few of the execs up and force the company to develop less polluting vehicles.

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speaking as a parent i can state that when i bought my VW van the only thing i was concerned about was mpg and load capacity .I suspect most parents will look at price, mpg,comfort and room inside long before they go into what emissions come out of the back end which will vary on a daily basis

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Isn't that what VWs cheat device is all about? Conning test procedures but resuming its pollution on the road?

They'll care alright when their kids develop the associated respiratory problems. They should be compensated, the execs locked up, the Company heavily fined and stuff the Company.

What you can't see won't hurt you eh? I hope your kids agree.

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Not sure it could con a rolling road test with a wand in the tail pipe for an MOT ,i think the software is more designed to con the regulatory bodies in lab testing .

no car manufacturer has ever promised no harmful emissions.Whatever VW said their emissions were supposed to be there will still be harmful emissions ,that is the cost of having cars on the roads .VW really only cheated the various governments who gave them green car allowances and tax reductions based on the emissions ,the general public that bought the cars were still poisoning the atmosphere even if the emissions were correctly reported

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I don't think it's a full rolling road test, just the driven axle like a dynamometer. The "trick" is using the ABS sensors to determine that the undriven wheels are not turning so it must be a test.

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Indeed. Can you imagine the furore if we had pulled this trick?

Never said they did but VW actively cheated their way around the parameters regarded as tolerable purely to enhance their profits at the cost of goodness knows how many respiratory related complications and deaths.

It's not just about cheating governments, VW cheated everyone and took them for mugs. I hope they are buried and would encourage everyone, regardless of whether they have one of the cars from their Group, to pursue them until they break.

And that includes you and your dirty van ;).

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I would imagine that Diesel Vehicles will have to pay much more Road Tax in the future... Is our British Government going to sue VW like the Americans.

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Vehicle Excise Duty has been revised for 2017. The Exchequer were 'losing out' under the existing system.

I don't think the Government plans to sue; it is being left to owners.

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Its not that straightforward. The emissions they were cheating on were NOx (Oxides of Nitrogen), while road tax is only decided on CO2 emissions, I'm not sure how the cheating affected the output of those gases.

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Looks like they're still at it:

Source

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A bit like politicians in that they say they won't do it after they get caught out but alas they still continue to get up to the same dirty deeds unabated afterwards...

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VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat are on my list of poisonous-junk-I-will-never-buy; I hope more people realise these noxious fumes are probably creating 'asthma' in our kids. :(

It will be a wonderful bonus if leaving the EU makes the import tariff on these cars (even more) unattractive.

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Wow . . you really have got strange ideals.

Why don't you go the whole hog and refuse to buy ANY vehicle at all, in fact avoid anything made with steel and plastic, stop using 90% of household cleaners, then move out into the middle of nowhere and live off the land.

There's a heck of a lot more stuff damaging peoples health than a few cars putting out 0.1% more 'poisonous' fumes. :shocked: