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Pierre 07-01-2015 18:54

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35750928)
Given how much they yearn for their 'paradise' putting them down will be giving them exactly what they want.

Good, then give them what they want

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35750929)
France doesn't have the death penalty.

It doesn't need it, it has armed police that have just seen one of their own executed

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35750933)
I have friends who live in Paris and work in various areas of security and the one thing, aside from the evident professionalism with which this attack has been carried out, that is intriguing them is the fact that there is no evidence of an attempt at suicide on the part of the perpetrators. That's quite alarming as it would suggest they have more in store for the people of Paris and, in all probability, further afield.

Absolutely, these aren't brainwashed idiots in a vest.

These are trained combatants.

Russ 07-01-2015 19:01

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35750994)
Good, then give them what they want

You're happy with the likely death toll of innocents that would come with "giving them what they want"?

Ignitionnet 07-01-2015 19:03

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35750976)
That's a good cartoon.

It would be nice if all our newspapers tomorrow ran their cartoons in the front page. Although it's easy to say that when you're not the one who face the consequences I guess.

I very rarely do this but... Change.org.

Not that it's likely of course, already self-censorship has been happening today.

Ramrod 07-01-2015 19:07

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35750998)
I very rarely do this but... Change.org.

Signed

Sirius 07-01-2015 19:19

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35750997)
You're happy with the likely death toll of innocents that would come with "giving them what they want"?

We already have a death toll of innocents, however idly sitting by whilst the terrorists continue to kill innocents might fit in with your ideals but it certainly does not fit with me. I live in the real world not some rose tinted world you seem to think we live in.

Ignitionnet 07-01-2015 19:24

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
French security agencies have identified the gunmen who carried out the attack at Charlie Hebdo. Suspects ages 18, 32, 34.

Apparently.

Russ 07-01-2015 19:24

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35751002)
We already have a death toll of innocents, however idly sitting by whilst the terrorists continue to kill innocents might fit in with your ideals but it certainly does not fit with me. I live in the real world not some rose tinted world you seem to think we live in.

Who said sitting idly by fits my ideals?

Sirius 07-01-2015 19:25

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751007)
French security agencies have identified the gunmen who carried out the attack at Charlie Hebdo. Suspects ages 18, 32, 34.

Apparently.

I bet they don't get to be 19, 33, 35 ;)

TheDaddy 07-01-2015 19:32

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35750916)
:confused: Try taking a look around the world. Are Boko Haram trying to provoke anything?

I'm pretty convinced Isis, is or whatever having been trying to provoke a response from day one

martyh 07-01-2015 19:33

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35751002)
We already have a death toll of innocents, however idly sitting by whilst the terrorists continue to kill innocents might fit in with your ideals but it certainly does not fit with me.

This is the trouble with discussing this subject on this forum ,people like you seem to think that because some don't advocate "all guns blazing executions" in reprisal that we are advocating "sitting idly by with our heads in the sand" .For every terrorist that is shot there may be ten more spring up because shooting said terrorist makes them a martyr which in a Muslims view will automatically dispatch them to Paradise and reagardless of what you think re Paradise it is what they think and believe that is important and must be understood fully in order to deal with them effectively

Ignitionnet 07-01-2015 19:33

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35751010)
I bet they don't reach 19, 33, 35 ;)

Probably not - if they're as nuts as they seem to be they'll martyr themselves before they can be arrested.

Seems the wounded police officer they executed in cold blood as he lay on the street was a French Muslim named Ahmed Merabet.

TheDaddy 07-01-2015 19:34

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35751010)
I bet they don't get to be 19, 33, 35 ;)

Shame imo if they don't, I tend to agree with Russ, them locked up and forgotten about till the day they die doesn't turn them into martyr's or satisfy their aims

Ignitionnet 07-01-2015 19:34

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751011)
I'm pretty convinced Isis, is or whatever having been trying to provoke a response from day one

I'm pretty convinced that many have gone too far in the opposite direction, into downright appeasement, in an attempt to avoid a 'reaction'.

It really hasn't worked over the past couple of decades.

papa smurf 07-01-2015 19:35

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
another one for duck and cover :)

Russ 07-01-2015 19:37

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751014)
Shame imo if they don't, I tend to agree with Russ, them locked up and forgotten about till the day they die doesn't turn them into martyr's or satisfy their aims

That would be common sense. Shipped off to an Gitmo Bay kind of island for the rest of their lives would be better. Give them zero voice and allow them to be nicely forgotten about.


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