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Mick 16-08-2012 19:58

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Wikileaks have announced on Twitter, that Julian Assange is to deliver a Statement in front of the Ecuador Embassy on Sunday at 2pm.

Um, how can he do this surely once he steps out he will be 'Cuffed' and sent on his merry way to Sweden? :erm:

Tezcatlipoca 16-08-2012 20:00

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35463900)
The Asylum claim is rubbish anyway, being investigated for sexual offensives is not a reason is claim asylum.

Indeed. Political asylum is supposed to be for fear of persecution, not fear of prosecution...

Damien 16-08-2012 20:05

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35463943)
Wikileaks have announced on Twitter, that Julian Assange is to deliver a Statement in front of the Ecuador Embassy on Sunday at 2pm.

Um, how can he do this surely once he steps out he will be 'Cuffed' and sent on his merry way to Sweden? :erm:

You would think so, indeed the people on the news/twitter/live blogs are saying that they may try and do so. I suspect if police get to near he'll not go out or step back in.

martyh 16-08-2012 20:16

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35463943)
Wikileaks have announced on Twitter, that Julian Assange is to deliver a Statement in front of the Ecuador Embassy on Sunday at 2pm.

Um, how can he do this surely once he steps out he will be 'Cuffed' and sent on his merry way to Sweden? :erm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35463946)
You would think so, indeed the people on the news/twitter/live blogs are saying that they may try and do so. I suspect if police get to near he'll not go out or step back in.

for "in front of the embassy" substitute "at the front door" ;)

danielf 16-08-2012 20:23

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35463919)
I find myself terribly worried because I'm tending to agree with Danielf. Must remember to alter my medication... ;)

Be afraid. Be very afraid... :D

Mick 16-08-2012 20:25

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35463948)
for "in front of the embassy" substitute "at the front door" ;)

Nah, he's not safe, not even at the front door, as Police are allowed in the Lobby, a corridor in the Ecuador Embassy as the building has shared ownership or something, so if he stood at the Front Door, I strongly suspect he will be Arrested.

Chris 16-08-2012 20:26

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35463951)
Nah, he's not safe, not even at the front door, as Police are allowed in the Lobby, a corridor in the Ecuador Embassy as the building has shared ownership or something, so if he stood at the Front Door, I strongly suspect he will be Arrested.

We can but hope.

Maggy 16-08-2012 20:30

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35463858)
Yeah he's not been charged with the crime as he is going all out to avoid extradition so he can be questioned.

As I see it there are two choices
  1. He did it and is trying anything to save his skin
  2. He didn't do it. The USA made it all up but instead of extraditing him from a country they have good ties with decided instead to frame him for a crime from a third country in the hope he goes there and gets extradited from country three to the US

I know which one my money is on.

Me too..Sweden is one of the most libertarian countries in the world and more than once has been at odds with the US.

Damien 16-08-2012 20:33

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35463954)
Me too..Sweden is one of the most libertarian countries in the world and more than once has been at odds with the US.

I have asked this constantly and no one has come up with an answer. Why fabricate a charge to get him sent to Sweden so that you can start the extradition process all over again but this time to go to America? Why not just do it here where we have shown little fight in extradition requests? Makes no sense.

Hugh 16-08-2012 20:34

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35463926)
Nothing strange about it.

Raiding the house or storming it, one of the same thing.

Seen it used before - a google search shows it being used in the following news release:-

"In Friday’s early morning raid, troops stormed a house in the Bedouin desert town of Sheikh Zuweyid"

http://www.japantoday.com/smartphone...-sinai-attacks

Is that really a valid comparison - police attempting to arrest a rape suspect for extradition, and troops & security forces trying to capture militants who were suspected of involvement in an assault in which gunmen stormed an army checkpoint killing 16 soldiers?

Damien 16-08-2012 20:38

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Stormed vs Raid isn't really a problem is it? As we've established neither are what was proposed in the statement...

Osem 16-08-2012 20:42

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35463950)
Be afraid. Be very afraid... :D

and on that Hollywood note...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35463957)
I have asked this constantly and no one has come up with an answer. Why fabricate a charge to get him sent to Sweden so that you can start the extradition process all over again but this time to go to America? Why not just do it here where we have shown little fight in extradition requests? Makes no sense.

... I feel a major cinematic blockbuster coming on - an international political thriller called "The Ikea Conspiracy". Maybe Matt Damon could star as Assange and there could be several sequels...

:D

Mick 16-08-2012 20:43

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35463958)
Is that really a valid comparison -

Yes, no - I couldn't give a crap. Stop bloody badgering on about it. :rolleyes:

danielf 16-08-2012 20:51

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35463959)
Stormed vs Raid isn't really a problem is it? As we've established neither are what was proposed in the statement...

How about assault? :)

Hugh 16-08-2012 20:52

Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35463965)
How about assault? :)

No, thanks - I've just eaten....

On a more serious note, how about sexual assault, which is one of the charges against Assange?


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