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Chad 05-08-2012 18:00

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Looks like Youview is becoming a real viable alternative to Virgin:

http://corporate.sky.com/media/press...f_sky_channels

The agreement will see a wide range of standard definition channels become available through Talk Talk on a wholesale basis. These channels include Sky 1, Sky Living, Sky Arts 1 & 2, Sky News, Sky Sports News, Sky Sports 1, 2, 3 and 4, Sky Sports F1 and the full suite of Sky Movies channels. In addition to the live linear channels, in time Talk Talk customers will be able to access a comprehensive selection of bonus subscription video-on-demand content through Sky Anytime.

The channels will be available via Talk Talk’s YouView service and will be delivered over broadband. Sky’s new internet TV service, NOW TV, will also be available.

Whilst there is no HD on Talk Talk just yet, it is rumoured to be coming soon according to posts in their forums.Talk Talk offer the same catch up service as Virgin and have a good selection of on demand content. Their channel list isn't bad either:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...on_TalkTalk_TV

Hugh 05-08-2012 18:04

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
Good - more competition is better for everyone.

Chad 05-08-2012 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35460065)
Good - more competition is better for everyone.

I agree. I hope BT offer a stong service also. I'm hoping for a price war.

Talk Talk also have their own unique selling point too. SKY have SKY Atlantic, Virgin have ESPN and Talk Talk have.....

"12 month LOVEFiLM Instant - Unlimited films and TV streaming"

I must admit I'm fairly impressed with what Talk Talk offer, and their prices. TiVo is a better box, and Virgin have a wide range of HD, but give Talk Talk 12 months and I'm sure their PVR will have improved and their HD offering increased.

OLD BOY 05-08-2012 21:11

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TV film streaming is coming to VM soon - I suspect this autumn. Best to see what's on offer from Virgin this October, I believe that we are going to see some real progress with the TV service.

Telly_ 05-08-2012 21:18

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There is going to be a big fight for second place in the UK pay tv market. Although it may only really start seriously this autumn it will be an on going battle.

I just wonder if VM can stay competitive over the next 2,3,4,5 + years aswell as servicing the £6 billion debt.

denphone 05-08-2012 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460121)
There is going to be a big fight for second place in the UK pay tv market. Although it may only really start seriously this autumn it will be an on going battle.

I just wonder if VM can stay competitive over the next 2,3,4,5 + years aswell as servicing the £6 billion debt.

Theres no need to worry about Virgin as they will be perfectly fine despite the negative doomsayers on here constantly knocking them.

Mr Banana 06-08-2012 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460121)
There is going to be a big fight for second place in the UK pay tv market. Although it may only really start seriously this autumn it will be an on going battle.

I just wonder if VM can stay competitive over the next 2,3,4,5 + years aswell as servicing the £6 billion debt.

I think you will find that VM are adding more TV customers per qtr than Sky

Sky Q1 +15k Q2 +20k VM Q1 +51k Q2 +38k

Why do you think that is Telly?

ShadowTD 07-08-2012 11:23

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For me it all comes down to the ability to record the streaming channels. BT have stated that's how they plan to deliver the additional premium content, but if you can't record it then it's borderline useless. We never watch anything live anymore!

andy_m 07-08-2012 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTD (Post 35460623)
For me it all comes down to the ability to record the streaming channels. BT have stated that's how they plan to deliver the additional premium content, but if you can't record it then it's borderline useless. We never watch anything live anymore!

Really good point this.

Telly_ 07-08-2012 12:14

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It is possible to record iptv streams. Infact you can record lots at once. Many more than 2 or 3 just depends on quality an BB speeds.

Hugh 07-08-2012 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460645)
It is possible to record iptv streams. Infact you can record lots at once. Many more than 2 or 3 just depends on quality an BB speeds.

Unless it is DRM'ed.....

Telly_ 07-08-2012 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35460661)
Unless it is DRM'ed.....

Even then it very simple to record and playback iptv on an authorised device.

andy_m 07-08-2012 13:16

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It's not as simple as pressing a button on the remote control and then accessing it later from your stb planner though, is it? Or is it?

I fear it would be beyond some people. I fear I'm one of them!!!

muppetman11 07-08-2012 13:23

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The problem with recording IPTV boils down to BB connections also , an IPTV PVR with three tuners like TIVO which can record three HD shows simultaneously would require approximately 24mb-30mb speed working on the average MP4 HD stream being 8-10mb , many peoples BB simply couldn't handle that.

carlwaring 07-08-2012 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35460667)
I fear it would be beyond some people.

Indeed. Some people can't seem to even handle the Tivo :D


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