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slowcoach 11-12-2011 11:45
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35343807)
Recent data in the Grauniad show that around 1 in 10 (approx.) are being prescribed anti-depressants, which, while a high figure, isn't exactly "a country full of people on medication".
It depends, if those people are confined to certain pockets of the country then those areas could have a high proportion of zombies, of course we will never know the true number as many people will be dealt with under BUPA and other company health schemes.
Once you know someone who is on medication the others are easy to spot, they have a vacant look and appear to be focusing on something in the distance. Take a bus ride and look around, zombies everywhere, they all seem to have a trait which makes them want to rush to the front of the bus three stops before the one they want, bus drivers don't know whether they are coming or going.

I have a mate in Aldershot (ex Army), he told me he doesn't know anyone who isn't on medication apart from me.
My neighbour has been on the medical cosh since he left the army and got a mortgage 25 years ago, hey, I am beginning to see a connection here, no no, I'm sure most of them have no connection past or present with the services. :D

Sirius 11-12-2011 11:49
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35343834)
It depends, if those people are confined to certain pockets of the country then those areas could have a high proportion of zombies, of course we will never know the true number as many people will be dealt with under BUPA and other company health schemes.
Once you know someone who is on medication the others are easy to spot, they have a vacant look and appear to be focusing on something in the distance. Take a bus ride and look around, zombies everywhere, they all seem to have a trait which makes them want to rush to the front of the bus three stops before the one they want, bus drivers don't know whether they are coming or going.

I have a mate in Aldershot (ex Army), he told me he doesn't know anyone who isn't on medication apart from me.
My neighbour has been on the medical cosh since he left the army and got a mortgage 25 years ago, hey, I am beginning to see a connection here, no no, I'm sure most of them have no connection past or present with the services. :D
And this has what to do with this thread other than for you to have a dig at people ?

richard1960 11-12-2011 11:51
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
A small fly in the oitment is from 2014 this is coming in.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Qualif...37305142956805

Have not had time to go into it properly but does it mean from 2014 if this comes in the uk will not be ale to use its veto to block proposals,as the rules change.

As i said i have not had time to look into it but under the new rues the uk could easily be out voted for good or bad.

Sirius 11-12-2011 11:53
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35343839)
A small fly in the oitment is from 2014 this is coming in.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Qualif...37305142956805

Have not had time to go into it properly but does it mean from 2014 if this comes in the uk will not be ale to use its veto to block proposals,as the rules change.

As i said i have not had time to look into it but under the new rues the uk could easily be out voted for good or bad.
Then lets get out now before they can really crap on us from a great height.

Hugh 11-12-2011 11:58
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35343834)
It depends, if those people are confined to certain pockets of the country then those areas could have a high proportion of zombies, of course we will never know the true number as many people will be dealt with under BUPA and other company health schemes.
Once you know someone who is on medication the others are easy to spot, they have a vacant look and appear to be focusing on something in the distance. Take a bus ride and look around, zombies everywhere, they all seem to have a trait which makes them want to rush to the front of the bus three stops before the one they want, bus drivers don't know whether they are coming or going.

I have a mate in Aldershot (ex Army), he told me he doesn't know anyone who isn't on medication apart from me.
My neighbour has been on the medical cosh since he left the army and got a mortgage 25 years ago, hey, I am beginning to see a connection here, no no, I'm sure most of them have no connection past or present with the services. :D
Actually, the link I gave showed the distribution, and it averages out at around 10%.

I would be interested, of course, in any stats you could provide which would show otherwise.

btw, I am ex-services (and I know quite a few others as well), and I (and most of the ones I know) aren't on anti-depressants - my group of acquaintances could be shown not to be a valid sample, but the same could be said of yours...

btw, most of your friends are on "the medical cosh" but you aren't - could there be a connection?;)

slowcoach 11-12-2011 11:58
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35343836)
And this has what to do with this thread other than for you to have a dig at people ?
The point is that by increasingly giving people the medical cosh politicians can get away with murder.
It wasn't a dig at you at all, I was just pointing out that politicians will do anything to get their own way.

Hugh 11-12-2011 11:59
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35343843)
The point is that by increasingly giving people the medical cosh politicians can get away with murder.
It wasn't a dig at you at all, I was just pointing out that politicians will do anything to get their own way.
Only two problems with your point -
a) doctors prescribe medicines, not politicians
b) the stats don't back up your claim

slowcoach 11-12-2011 12:09
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35343839)
A small fly in the oitment is from 2014 this is coming in.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Qualif...37305142956805

Have not had time to go into it properly but does it mean from 2014 if this comes in the uk will not be ale to use its veto to block proposals,as the rules change.

As i said i have not had time to look into it but under the new rues the uk could easily be out voted for good or bad.
I would have had more confidence in the EU if they had jailed all the bankers, seems to me all the European Governments are the same as ours.

Sirius 11-12-2011 12:12
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35343843)
The point is that by increasingly giving people the medical cosh politicians can get away with murder.
It wasn't a dig at you at all, I was just pointing out that politicians will do anything to get their own way.
Trust me if i did not have my pain killers i would not be able to work, Thats the reason i take them and to reduce the pain :).

Osem 11-12-2011 12:25
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35343839)
A small fly in the oitment is from 2014 this is coming in.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Qualif...37305142956805

Have not had time to go into it properly but does it mean from 2014 if this comes in the uk will not be ale to use its veto to block proposals,as the rules change.

As i said i have not had time to look into it but under the new rues the uk could easily be out voted for good or bad.
Which is why I believe a referendum (which IMHO would result in a vote to leave) could well result from the aftermath of all of this. I'm sure Cameron can see the writing's on the wall and all that has happened is his hand has been forced. If the big players in the EU want to nullify our veto because it suits their aims to do so you can be sure they'll find a way by hook or by crook. It's inevitable I feel.

slowcoach 11-12-2011 12:42
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35343857)
Trust me if i did not have my pain killers i would not be able to work, Thats the reason i take them and to reduce the pain :).
Are you able to sleep well?

martyh 11-12-2011 12:46
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35343867)
Which is why I believe a referendum (which IMHO would result in a vote to leave) could well result from the aftermath of all of this. I'm sure Cameron can see the writing's on the wall and all that has happened is his hand has been forced. If the big players in the EU want to nullify our veto because it suits their aims to do so you can be sure they'll find a way by hook or by crook. It's inevitable I feel.
There are 3 outcomes i see from this

1) France and Germany will spit a few feathers ,make a few tough remarks for a few weeks then we will be back around the table and we will get what we want
2) A big shout for a referendum on leaving the EU that Cameron can't ignore and stay in office
3) Cameron will cave in to clegg and the rest of the europhiles

Sirius 11-12-2011 12:58
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 35343881)
Are you able to sleep well?
No because of the tablets

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35343884)
There are 3 outcomes i see from this

1) France and Germany will spit a few feathers ,make a few tough remarks for a few weeks then we will be back around the table and we will get what we want
2) A big shout for a referendum on leaving the EU that Cameron can't ignore and stay in office
3) Cameron will cave in to clegg and the rest of the europhiles
option 2 for me please

martyh 11-12-2011 13:17
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35343892)
No because of the tablets

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option 2 for me please
my favourite as well

lymmranger 11-12-2011 14:30
Re: Do we need a United States Of Europe
 
I dont normally join in the threads in this section...

but....

The only attraction the EU seems to hold is for "failed" politians who seem to imeadiately get a hu, no HUGE salary for some "non" job........

The sooner option 2 is offered to us ordinary hard working mortals the better


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