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Chris 04-12-2011 16:57

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35340397)
Being called a paranoid is a bit strong don't you agree Martyh.:(

Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.

denphone 04-12-2011 17:04

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35340408)
Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.

But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .

martyh 04-12-2011 17:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35340412)
But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .

care to give some examples of leaked personal info .Yes there have been cases where information has been lost or left on a laptop somewhere but to my knowledge none have led to a explosion of id theft or ambulance chasing lawyers .Most of your details i.e name address ect are already available anyway from the council register commonly sold to companies for mail drops and cold calling

denphone 04-12-2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35340419)
care to give some examples of leaked personal info .Yes there have been cases where information has been lost or left on a laptop somewhere but to my knowledge none have led to a explosion of id theft or ambulance chasing lawyers .Most of your details i.e name address ect are already available anyway from the council register commonly sold to companies for mail drops and cold calling

Yes you can say that again as sometimes l get 4 or 5 instances of cold calling a week sometimes.:(

Sirius 04-12-2011 17:17

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35340408)
Sadly I think 'paranoid' is a fair assessment, given the number of posts made in this thread on the basis of assumptions that are simply not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.

so is this silly name calling allowed !!!

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35340412)
But we have seen these things before and our trust has been abused as we see by the many bits of private information that leaks out or gets misplaced in the wrong hands so l do not think paranoid is a fair assumption of many of us Chris .


Agreed.

If it only ever goes out in anonymised versions then we don't have a problem that's true.

However we all know how over time we see the loosening of what was agreed where money has an influence. Money especially if its multi millions as one poster puts it has a lot of sway. Bottom line for me is i don't trust them to stay good to there word because there is potentially ££££ involved and history has seen goal posts moved by money.

denphone 04-12-2011 17:19

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35340422)
so this name calling is allowed !!!




Agreed.

If it only ever goes out in anonymised versions then we don't have a problem that's true.

However we all know how over time we see the loosening of what was agreed where money has an influence. Money especially if its multi millions as one poster puts it has a lot of sway. Bottom line for me is i don't trust them to stay good to there word because there is potentially ££££ involved and lots of ££££ and history has seen goal posts moved by money.

Exactly.

martyh 04-12-2011 17:20

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35340421)
Yes you can say that again as sometimes l get 4 or 5 instances of cold calling a week sometimes.:(

Proof that your details are already out there then

Sirius 04-12-2011 17:21

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35340394)
All you paranoids seem to be forgetting that all your personal details are already at the mercy of unscrupulous nurses ,doctors and admin staff within the NHS .

Try to keep it grown up please :rolleyes:

They HAVE to have the data to do there job.

denphone 04-12-2011 17:24

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35340425)
Proof that your details are already out there then

Yes and most of us are not happy about our details being used or abused in these ways.

Sirius 04-12-2011 17:25

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35340425)
Proof that your details are already out there then

Proof that big business finds a way to get the data if there is money involved. I know there is no proof yet that this will be sold but if the Government is involved then money will be involved.

Gary L 04-12-2011 17:43

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35340430)
Proof that big business finds a way to get the data if there is money involved. I know there is no proof yet that this will be sold but if the Government is involved then money will be involved.

Yeh, but think of the plus side. it might mean they don't put 1p on a litre of fuel, and the cost of fags only go up by 20p and not 30p :)

denphone 04-12-2011 17:47

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35340436)
Yeh, but think of the plus side. it might mean they don't put 1p on a litre of fuel, and the cost of fags only go up by 20p and not 30p :)

Oh Gary your words are the highlight of our day.:)

devilincarnate 04-12-2011 18:17

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35340436)
Yeh, but think of the plus side. it might mean they don't put 1p on a litre of fuel, and the cost of fags only go up by 20p and not 30p :)

I sounds like a bonfire:erm:

Peter_ 04-12-2011 18:34

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Do remember this is personal choice and myself and many others would choose not to allow any access to our medical records whatsoever.

Ignitionnet 04-12-2011 19:54

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35340407)
Can they give my name to the Drug companies:erm:

No, neither are they planning to.


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