Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699469)

You obvously work for Virgin Media so your opinions are biased.

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 34699909)

How did do you find out whether your collegues may or may not have a criminal record anyway? :/

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34700058)

Yes I have had speeding/parking fines in the past but haven't we all?

A CRB includes motoring offences but would not be taken into consideration when a company decides if someone is fit to knock on a potential customers door. If however the person was convicted of a sex or fraud offence then surely they shouldnt be allowed to do be in a customers home?

Originally Posted by hokkers999 (Post 34700195)

Why is HR useless? Put it in writing and they *have* to respond. They can't ignore it. they have certain legal duties to fulfil.

Originally Posted by hokkers999 (Post 34700195)

As for "how did I figure that out". Let's say you have found out that I intended to go and kill someone and you made no attempt to stop me. What does that make you? - an accomplice after the fact. Same here. If the Salesman has genuine info and does nothing about it and a "tragedy"; does happen then he is just as responsible as the perpetrator. Over and above that he has a moral obligation to "do the right thing".

Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid (Post 34700215)

Why don't you move to one of those companies then, with a more desirable recruitment process?

Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid (Post 34700215)

Really? What if you're driving there? How can they trust you to park in the right place or to not speed on your way? I mean, as you have motoring offences, you must be a felon!

Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid (Post 34700215)

I'm sure that Virgin Media are more than thorough with their checks when necessary. I doubt they would be so careless.

Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid (Post 34700215)

I've skimmed this entire thread and found it hilarious.



You work for virgin media, so your opinions must be biased also ?


Why don't you move to one of those companies then, with a more desirable recruitment process?


Yeah, that - and - how do you know your managers / duty staff / HR don't know this already? I've heard they love hearing things over and over again from worried colleagues about irrelevant and silly little things!



Really? What if you're driving there? How can they trust you to park in the right place or to not speed on your way? I mean, as you have motoring offences, you must be a felon!

You never mentioned the word 'unspent' or 'unserved' convictions in your original post. And as for asking why you're debating, this isn't a publicist site unfortunately, people have and will always have their right to post & express their views and opinions.

I'm sure that Virgin Media are more than thorough with their checks when necessary. I doubt they would be so careless.

Originally Posted by Frank (Post 34700221)

That is a stupid argument and does not resolve the issue. We are discussing VM here.

Again, you are comparing apples with oranges. A motoring infraction is clearly not the same as a conviction for theft or something more serious.

Sorry, you contradicted yourself here. How can you be sure they are thorough and doubt they are not thorough at the same time? You are sure based on what exactly?

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34700226)

I think you should stick to riding your bike with "L" plates and your provisonal licence.

With regard to VM current checks you cant be aware of their current policy - unless you work there, which I doubt because as your profile says you are "mostly in bed"

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34700242)

Now that depends on what the offense is surely . Blanketing motoring offenses as less serious that theft. Driving without due care and attention could cause injury to innocents whats about reckless driving? causing death by reckelss driving? drink driving? causing death whilst under the influence? just a plain theft charge would not it would have to be with menaces or an assault ;)

Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34700245)

to be fair we only have your assertion that you work for VM to go on - LBA does 'at least', have the accreditation of being related to a previous very well respected moderator of this site.

- as such we can assume he is entitled to the opinion expressed - do we have the same re-assurance for you?

Everyone has their right to an opinion within the T&C's of this site, regardless of their age, your descent into patronisation doesn't enhance yours, unfortunately?

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34700249)

OK fair point I am feeling very frustated at the moment but gives me no right to make things personal. I apologise.

Originally Posted by Frank (Post 34700216)

Well firstly they don't have to respond to anything. They work for the employer and if the employer chooses not to respond to your complain then tough luck. Secondly, there is no legal duty to respond to your complaint, especially as you would in this case be complaining about a company recruitment policy.

I'm not sure how we got from unspent convictions for salespeople to knowledge of premeditated murder, but I'll bite :D

In your scenario, your argument is flimsy at best, technically wrong at worst. The legal word for "accomplice after the fact" is "Accessory," which is someone who actively participates in the commission of...murder in this case. There is no such thing as "accessory after the fact".

And there is no plausible way that any judge could find someone guilty of being an "accessory" just by knowing about an expressed intent to perhaps do something in the future.